Castrol Edge? is it a new Syntec?

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by sasha055

Hi,

I'm planning to change oil and I was looking for rebates on castrol syntec 5w40...

I noticed Castrol has a new oil they advertise "edge".. they advertise it as full syntetic.. and a "new formula"

Should I go for edge or stick with Syntec?

Did anyone tried it or know anything about it?

Thanks
Sasha

No, Edge is a new product, is not available in 5W or 10W-40 weights, and does not hold the ACEA A3, B3, B4 ratings.

[sasha055]

Thanks,

I'll go with good old syntec

Sasha

[Frodo]

In a related vein, JFP---You still recommending the Syntec 10W-40 over the 5W-40?

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by Frodo

In a related vein, JFP---You still recommending the Syntec 10W-40 over the 5W-40?

Yes, UoA's continue to support that it holds up somewhat better, particularly under high heat/shear conditions.............

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by sppmo

"No, Edge is a new product, is not available in 5W or 10W-40 weights, and does not hold the ACEA A3, B3, B4 ratings."

This is wrong information. Edge is a generic label.


For Porsche you should use EDGE SPORT 0W-40

Technical Specifications
ACEA A3/B3, A3/B4, C2, C3
API SM/CF
BMW Longlife-04
Porsche (except Cayenne V6) A40
MB-Approved 229.51
VW 502 00 / 503 00 / 505 00

Data sheets I have say that Edge is only available in 5W-30 and 10W-30 weights, and they do not have ACEA A3, B2, B4; both are also too thin for Porsche use. The "Edge Sport" is supposedly not widely available currently in North America due to some marketing agreements according to my Castrol rep.

As for 0W-anything weight oils, based upon how well most hold up in UoA's, I wouldn't use them in my lawn mower...........

[tonycarreon]

Originally Posted by JFP in PA

Data sheets I have say that Edge is only available in 5W-30 and 10W-30 weights, and they do not have ACEA A3, B2, B4; both are also too thin for Porsche use. The "Edge Sport" is supposedly not widely available currently in North America due to some marketing agreements according to my Castrol rep.

As for 0W-anything weight oils, based upon how well most hold up in UoA's, I wouldn't use them in my lawn mower...........

JFP's correct. EDGE is not available in the US in anything other than the xw-30 weights.

from castrol's US site:

[Cloudsurfer]

A lot of guys over on the BMW forums are using it, and seem happy with it, but I'd agree with JFP here.

[Lobo1186]

in any case having to do with OIL and the m96 motor I would always go with the opinion of someone like JFP because he can back it all up with tests and experience

as true as it may be that it works well in other motors I can only compare it to a friend of mine who is a huge mustang guy. they love to build High horsepower motors good for some of them into the 1000hp range... what oil do they use? many just use whatever is on sale at the time.

every motor is different and like cloudsurfer said in this case I would defer to someone like JFP

[tonycarreon]

Originally Posted by JFP in PA

No, Edge is a new product, is not available in 5W or 10W-40 weights, and does not hold the ACEA A3, B3, B4 ratings.

looks like that's changed...



"New Name, Better Formula - Formerly Castrol Syntec"

[JFP in PA]

Originally Posted by tonycarreon

looks like that's changed...



"New Name, Better Formula - Formerly Castrol Syntec"

That is "Castrol Edge with Syntec Technology", a replacement for the old Syntec, which holds ACEA A3,B3,B4. "Edge", which is not available in 10W-40, does not hold those ACEA ratings, it holds different ones (A1, B1, B5). The replacement Syntec is basically the old product with a different additive package, which limited UOA's say is doing pretty good.

Now if they would only make the "Edge Professional" available in North America......

[tonycarreon]

Originally Posted by JFP in PA

That is "Castrol Edge with Syntec Technology", a replacement for the old Syntec, which holds ACEA A3,B3,B4. "Edge", which is not available in 10W-40, does not hold those ACEA ratings, it holds different ones (A1, B1, B5). The replacement Syntec is basically the old product with a different additive package, which limited UOA's say is doing pretty good

so there's a "Castrol Edge with Syntec Technology" and a regular "Castrol Edge" that's different... what marketing putz came up with that.

regular 'ol Castrol Syntec is getting hard to find around here - it used to be everywhere. now the regular places I go have limited supplies of it.

[JFP in PA]

The original Syntec will totally disappear, the replacement product is all you will eventually find when the old stocks are gone. Fortunately, the new "Edge with Syntec Technology" is at least starting to look like a worthy replacement, but only time, and UOA's, will tell................

[coreseller]

If one were to come across some of the Syntec would it be wise to buy it in anticipation of it's unavailability? Does synthetic motor oil have a shelf life?

[JFP in PA]

Most synthetics have a shelf life of about 2-3 years, with the limiting factor being the separation of the additive package from the base stocks during long term storage. So before buying it, I'd also check the date of manufacture.

As the UOA’s on the new product have looked pretty good as well (limited number of samples), I wouldn’t be overly concerned about stocking up.