06-15-2010, 11:09 AM
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Castrol Edge? is it a new Syntec?
Hi,
I'm planning to change oil and I was looking for rebates on castrol syntec 5w40...
I noticed Castrol has a new oil they advertise "edge".. they advertise it as full syntetic.. and a "new formula"
Should I go for edge or stick with Syntec?
Did anyone tried it or know anything about it?
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06-15-2010, 11:30 AM
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I would go with the proven Syntec 5w40. It takes awhile before you know about a new oil and it's characteristics to be known. 
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06-15-2010, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by sasha055
Hi,
I'm planning to change oil and I was looking for rebates on castrol syntec 5w40...
I noticed Castrol has a new oil they advertise "edge".. they advertise it as full syntetic.. and a "new formula"
Should I go for edge or stick with Syntec?
Did anyone tried it or know anything about it?
Thanks
Sasha
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No, Edge is a new product, is not available in 5W or 10W-40 weights, and does not hold the ACEA A3, B3, B4 ratings.
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06-15-2010, 11:50 AM
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Thanks,
I'll go with good old syntec
Sasha
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06-15-2010, 11:53 AM
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In a related vein, JFP---You still recommending the Syntec 10W-40 over the 5W-40?
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06-15-2010, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Frodo
In a related vein, JFP---You still recommending the Syntec 10W-40 over the 5W-40?
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Yes, UoA's continue to support that it holds up somewhat better, particularly under high heat/shear conditions.............
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06-15-2010, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by sppmo
"No, Edge is a new product, is not available in 5W or 10W-40 weights, and does not hold the ACEA A3, B3, B4 ratings."
This is wrong information. Edge is a generic label.
For Porsche you should use EDGE SPORT 0W-40
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Data sheets I have say that Edge is only available in 5W-30 and 10W-30 weights, and they do not have ACEA A3, B2, B4; both are also too thin for Porsche use. The "Edge Sport" is supposedly not widely available currently in North America due to some marketing agreements according to my Castrol rep.
As for 0W-anything weight oils, based upon how well most hold up in UoA's, I wouldn't use them in my lawn mower...........
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Last edited by JFP in PA; 06-15-2010 at 01:09 PM.
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06-15-2010, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JFP in PA
Data sheets I have say that Edge is only available in 5W-30 and 10W-30 weights, and they do not have ACEA A3, B2, B4; both are also too thin for Porsche use. The "Edge Sport" is supposedly not widely available currently in North America due to some marketing agreements according to my Castrol rep.
As for 0W-anything weight oils, based upon how well most hold up in UoA's, I wouldn't use them in my lawn mower...........
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JFP's correct. EDGE is not available in the US in anything other than the xw-30 weights.
from castrol's US site:
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08-05-2011, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by JFP in PA
No, Edge is a new product, is not available in 5W or 10W-40 weights, and does not hold the ACEA A3, B3, B4 ratings.
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looks like that's changed...
"New Name, Better Formula - Formerly Castrol Syntec"
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08-05-2011, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by tonycarreon
looks like that's changed...
"New Name, Better Formula - Formerly Castrol Syntec" |
That is "Castrol Edge with Syntec Technology", a replacement for the old Syntec, which holds ACEA A3,B3,B4. "Edge", which is not available in 10W-40, does not hold those ACEA ratings, it holds different ones (A1, B1, B5). The replacement Syntec is basically the old product with a different additive package, which limited UOA's say is doing pretty good.
Now if they would only make the "Edge Professional" available in North America......
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08-05-2011, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by JFP in PA
That is "Castrol Edge with Syntec Technology", a replacement for the old Syntec, which holds ACEA A3,B3,B4. "Edge", which is not available in 10W-40, does not hold those ACEA ratings, it holds different ones (A1, B1, B5). The replacement Syntec is basically the old product with a different additive package, which limited UOA's say is doing pretty good
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so there's a "Castrol Edge with Syntec Technology" and a regular "Castrol Edge" that's different... what marketing putz came up with that.
regular 'ol Castrol Syntec is getting hard to find around here - it used to be everywhere. now the regular places I go have limited supplies of it.
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08-05-2011, 12:26 PM
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The original Syntec will totally disappear, the replacement product is all you will eventually find when the old stocks are gone. Fortunately, the new "Edge with Syntec Technology" is at least starting to look like a worthy replacement, but only time, and UOA's, will tell................
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05-19-2011, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by sasha055
Hi,
I'm planning to change oil and I was looking for rebates on castrol syntec 5w40...
I noticed Castrol has a new oil they advertise "edge".. they advertise it as full syntetic.. and a "new formula"
Should I go for edge or stick with Syntec?
Did anyone tried it or know anything about it?
Thanks
Sasha
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I think it's just a marketing gimmick, basically same product new name.
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05-19-2011, 11:39 AM
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Actually, no, Edge is a distinct product with completely different ratings than Syntec; and is currently available only in a couple of weights that are not usable in a Porsche. Castrol also has a “Pro Edge” product line in more compatible weights, currently unavailable in North America, that is getting very favorable reviews overseas…………
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05-19-2011, 11:54 AM
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This thread is a year old, and it looks like Castrol is rebranding stuff.
It appears Castrol Syntec is now Castrol Edge with Syntec.
www.castrol.com has all the details.
They even say the 5w-50 has zinc for older cars.
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05-19-2011, 12:52 PM
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Both product lines continue to exist, name modification not withstanding. One of the major differences between the old Syntec (now Edge with Syntec technology) and the Edge (now with titanium technology) is the weight grades offered and type of ACEA ratings the different lines offer. The Edge with Syntec offers ACEA A3, B3, B4 ratings in weights suitable for Porsche applications; the Edge with titanium does not offer either.
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05-20-2011, 10:14 AM
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I have no idea what I bought the other day then. I haven't put it in, but I'm pretty sure I bought some of this "edge" stuff the other day @ $31.99 for 5qts and get a free filter from Advance Auto. I bought it in 10W40 for sure. It said Full Synthetic and even said "formally Syntec" It comes in a black container. I guess I'll have to look at it a little closer, but I was assuming I would be ok to use it.... Think I shouldn't?
Of course they didn't have the filter I needed so I just had to get them for my other vehicles.
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