Need Help! Royaly Screwed!!

the 1st question a good attorney will ask you is what is your past driving record like.

Your age and what you drive might have gotten you pulled over 2 or 3 times unfairly...BUT 20 TIMES??? At age 16 I drove a 1973 240z - I was pulled over once - and learned my lesson.

Once your past driving record is brought up, your word against this policeman's isn't going to work.

Time to start thinking about public transportation - buy a good bicycle, learn the bus and train lines...

...if you go into court claiming all those pull overs were because your were 19, they'll go harder on you....instead, think about taking an aggressive drivers training class - if you show up to court with a certificate that you finished a class like this, and take personal accountability for your driving, they might go easier on you.

And get the best attorney you can afford.

Originally Posted by PlayersExpress

Now I have been pulled over around 20 times because of my age (19) and my car (my Boxster)

[PlayersExpress]

You may not believe it, but yes I have been pulled over that many time and most of them either were for harassment tickets that ended up being dropped in court or just to check my license and registration. Ive only had one ticket on my record which was a speeding ticket for being 7mph over the speedlimit on a highway.

It isnt the way I drive, and yes I can blame it on my age and my car.

I do believe you've been pulled over that many times, but it wasn't for harassment - it was your driving. But it doesn't matter if I believe it - any sane judge & juror won't believe you, with your record.

My understanding is, in Chicago, it's 3 strikes - not two...are you sure there's not a ticket you're not telling us about? for them to pull your license, you had to be driving recklessly, or have more tickets from your 20 pull-overs.

Originally Posted by PlayersExpress

You may not believe it...

[PlayersExpress]

Nope, not at all on the driving. Just like some people have won the lottery two times in a row, its nearly impossible to believe but its happened. Same thing with being pulled over as many times as I have. I only have one ticket on my record besides this "squealing tires".

I just got a copy of my driving record 3 weeks ago for my new job and that was the only thing on it. Also the sheet informing me about the suspension only had that speeding ticket and the squealing tires on it and said

"THIS ORDER IS HEREBY ENTERED BASED ON YOUR HAVING BEEN CONVICTED OF NO LESS THAN TWO OFFENSES AGAINST THE TRAFFIC REGULATION GOVERNING THE MOVEMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES COMMITTED WITHIN ANY TWENTY-FOUR MONTH PERIOD."

1. 8-22-08 SPEEDING 5-15MPH OVER
2 . 9-01-09 SQUEALING OR SCREECHING TIRES



Many people would say its my driving habits, but it isnt for someone who rarely speeds and loves the right lane like it was my long lost puppy.

Originally Posted by PlayersExpress

Many people would say its my driving habits, but it isnt for someone who rarely speeds and loves the right lane like it was my long lost puppy.

hmmmm, adam, very odd here - you're statement above doesn't match you're statements on this board from the past. I don't think you're being very truthful with us...sadly, until you stop blaming others (ie, "the man") and start taking some personal accountability, you're going to get pulled over again, lose your license longer, or worse, hurt someone.

Originally Posted by PlayersExpress

Well some states like Illinois have whats called an "Engine Braking" Law which means flooring it from 0-45 will result in a ticket if caught. .

Originally Posted by PlayersExpress

Boxster101, personally I think he doesnt give Porsche drivers a bad name, we ALL do it ...

driving isn't a right, it's a privilege, and your privilege is being taken away because the state has determined that you are a risk to yourself, and others...time to learn and grown from the message they are sending you, if not for your own health, but for those you share the road with.

[PlayersExpress]

Originally Posted by Fred Demara

driving isn't a right, it's a privilege, and your privilege is being taken away because the state has determined that you are a risk to yourself, and others...time to learn and grown from the message they are sending you, if not for your own health, but for those you share the road with.

So because I was targeted and harassed, which video evidence from the squad car would prove, I lose my license because Im a risk to myself and others for being harassed and making a public nuisance.

That sounds so right does it not?


Unlike some people, I may talk a game yes because Ive been an athlete all my life but also remember not to underestimate me for my intelligence. I know right from wrong and when I can let lose and when not to do something stupid.

I have a 3.85GPA with 21 credit hours (normal full-time is 12-15hrs) I scored a 34 on my ACT a few years back, I turned down a full ride to Stanford, and now I go to Loyola University.


I believe it is you sir that need a lesson in open-mindedness and one who should take a step back and not pre-judge someone before you actually know more about them. How would you feel if the exact same thing happened to you? Now how would you feel if I took the same tone and attitude with you as you are with me? I rest my case.

You're young, in denial, and taking your life, and the live of others at risk. Pulled over 20 times and someone as smart as you claim to be can't see that the problem isn't you?

I just pray that you don't hurt someone before you grow up...this next month will be a good time to do some reflecting, and think about what it means to drive more responsibly.

Originally Posted by PlayersExpress

So because I was targeted and harassed, which video evidence from the squad car would prove, I lose my license because Im a risk to myself and others for being harassed and making a public nuisance.

Originally Posted by PlayersExpress

Now how would you feel if I took the same tone and attitude with you as you are with me?

A police officer did when I was 16, and he got thru to me - at first, it felt like harassement, but then I realized, he was trying to help me.

Common sense isn't something you should get upset about. And an officer trying to explain to you that you could kill someone isn't harrasment, he's trying to save your life, even if you can't understand it now, adam.

[Burg Boxster]

Originally Posted by PlayersExpress

At only 19, you're not old enough to use the cheers emoticon

Seriously though, definitely hire an attny whose is known (a/k/a connected) w/ the jurisdiction you live/must appear in.

Also, seriously consider changing your car and driving habits to become severely more conservative than you think you already are. There are some of us on the board who have 7, 8, 9, 10 or more times the years driving experience than you possibly could at 19. As one of those, who is a known fast/aggressive driver logging 20-25K miles per year, I can honestly tell you I have been pulled over 7 times total in my driving history. 4 resulted in citations, 3 were "earned", 1 wasn't but I had to just suck it up and pay (out of state and not worth the hassle plus 0 pts to my home state).

Glad to hear you're a good student. Keep at it b/c it will pay off for you in the future. Think 4 for 40.

Good luck

[gschotland]

Originally Posted by PlayersExpress

I have a 3.85GPA with 21 credit hours (normal full-time is 12-15hrs) I scored a 34 on my ACT a few years back, I turned down a full ride to Stanford, and now I go to Loyola University.

You should be pulled over and ticketed - multiple times - for turning down a full ride to Stanford. Sorry, had to say it.

[clickman]

Originally Posted by PlayersExpress

"THIS ORDER IS HEREBY ENTERED BASED ON YOUR HAVING BEEN CONVICTED OF NO LESS THAN TWO OFFENSES AGAINST THE TRAFFIC REGULATION GOVERNING THE MOVEMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES COMMITTED WITHIN ANY TWENTY-FOUR MONTH PERIOD."

1. 8-22-08 SPEEDING 5-15MPH OVER
2 . 9-01-09 SQUEALING OR SCREECHING TIRES

So you get your license suspended for a month for 2 infractions within 2 years?? Yikes, you've got some harsh regs!

Pay no attention to all these old men on the board telling you the cop is right.

So you got pulled over 20 times? Wow!

I wish I could say that when I was 19.

Between the age of 16-18 I got 18 TICKETS! I once got pulled over 3 times on the same night. And one time, the same cop ticketed me twice on the same night at two different locations! That guy was a jerk.

When I was 16, I had hair down to my waist and drove a bright orange 74 Challenger blaring heavy metal down nice suburban neighborhoods at 3:00am, -and I had a big mouth when I got stopped. I also thought that all the cops had a bad attitude.

Fortunately for me, back in those days I lived in a communist county where public officials such as Justices of the Peace did not like to work too much. So the courts were backlogged for 18 months at least, sometimes a lot longer, so the cops often did not show up for court or had forgotten too much.

The Ontario regime had a point system back then. But if the ticket was less than 15km over then there were no points deducted. Most of the cops wanted to avoid court so they could eat more donuts so they usually reduced the ticket to 15km. So, a couple times I got one to admit he reduced the ticket, which is an "improper charge" that has to be tossed out.

By the way, there is an excellent video on YouTube that deals with proper ways to deal with the police when stopped. It has a little foul language in it, so if that offends anyone, please do not click on the link. However, I think this is very sound advice when dealing with law enforcement almost anywhere in the world.

The link is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8