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Old 10-31-2009, 12:47 AM   #1
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Exclamation Need Help! Royaly Screwed!!

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Ok guys, so here is the deal and I still don't know what to do.

On September 1st, 2009 I was segregated. pulled over, and harassed by a Police officer from the neighboring town (Orland Hills). I was just coming home from school around 11am, traveling eastbound on a 4 lane street (2 lanes each way) I was in the right lane. Off the corner on the northside of the street I was traveling a cop had a black couple in a white older civic hatchback pulled over. I made my right hand turn south at the light, went up 6 blocks and saw police lights passing 4 cars that turned behind me.. and pulled me over. The street I was on (traveling east) was the dividing line for my town (Tinley Park) and the town this police officer served (Orland Hills) He chased me down 6 blocks into my own town.

After he pulled me over he harassed me and threatened to arrest me. His reason for pulling me over, Squealing tires. Now I had my convertible top down, no music, and 3 cars turned behind me. I didnt squeal my tires. No one did.

I was to the point where I actually called my towns nonemergency number and had them send a squad car out because I felt uncomfortable from my treatment. After the cop gave me the ticket, I had to follow him back to his station/village hall to pay my $75 bond in cash.

Outside the building... he changed his attitude and told me that if I originally told him that I coach football (peewees) for that town (Orland Hills) he would not have wrote me a ticket.

I went in, paid my bond... then decided to talk to the Deputy Chief of Police for Orland Hills.... and guess what. He harassed me and treated me like a little punk with a rap sheet a mile long. I honestly wish I recorded the conversation as he would now be suspended for the way he yelled at me and what he said to me. Also a harassment lawsuit.

Now I have been pulled over around 20 times because of my age (19) and my car (my Boxster) Never have I been treated the way I have and I knew it was wrong. Being young I do expect to be looked down upon and targeted because of my age and car to some extent. This was just overboard and I would never go above and beyond to do what I did next without good reason. I went and filed 2 formal complaints, one for the officer and one for the deputy chief.

I then talked to the Village Manager... explained what happened. He told me he would take care of the ticket and not to worry about it.

FAST FORWARD TO Yesterday....

I received a letter in the mail from guess who??? None other than the Secretary of the State saying that because of that ticket (squealing tires) and a speeding ticket I got over 14months ago....

MY LICENSE IS TO BE SUSPENDED FOR 1 MONTH... guess when? 11/03/09-12/03/09. I got the letter 5 days before my license is to be suspended.


Now my problem.
I never got a court date on the ticket.
I was harassed. Two times.
I was told the ticket would disappear.
I filed 2 formal complaints.
The video evidence from the squad car will support me.

With out my license... I will FAIL this entire semester of school that I paid for. (I drive to my school that is 15 miles away 7-9 times a week) Also I WILL LOSE MY JOB because I cant drive.

Now I only have 3 days left to do something about it.


The back of the sheet said I have to go back to the courts where the ticket was done to appeal it or challenge it... but how do I do that? I had no court date, no judge, or anything.

I already went back to the Village Manager and the Mayor... guess what, they were both in down town Chicago for depositions. I left a message yesterday morning... 2 days now went by, and no word back.


WHAT DO I DO??? Do I get a lawyer? Do I file harassment suits? How do I stop this from happening???



Any help or anyone in the chicagoland area who know a good lawyer or can do me a favor would have my deepest gratitude and I would owe them a few. Remember, I honestly was targeted because of my car and my age.... and now Im getting the shaft out of no where again. Ohhh the joys of being 19 going on 20.

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Old 10-31-2009, 04:17 AM   #2
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hire a lawyer for sure. he may be able to get the suspension lifted or get you a provisional license to travel to/from school and work. with only a few days left though it might be hard to do. but yes a lawyer for sure.
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Old 10-31-2009, 05:23 AM   #3
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19 and pulled over 20 times? that might be a reason. get a lawyer and hope hes good
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Old 10-31-2009, 06:12 AM   #4
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Get an attorney. It's possible that with your explaination of treatment from law enforcement, if you go to the court house they might just arrest you for failure to appear.
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Old 10-31-2009, 09:52 PM   #5
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Boo-Hoo... What a friggin Whiner!

You drive a Porshe at 19 (which M&D presumably supplied you with) and you want to call foul at the cop?

Give me a break!

Yea, I'm sure the cop singled you out... fabricated the whole thing to up their monthly quota on the supposition that you'd NEVER fight it and have M&D pay the fine!

God Damn Him! How dare he???

Surely, you, and your social prominance, have demonstrated that you are above the law as it is applied to mere social men!

I mean, your SAT scores alone PROVE that you are above a momentary lapse in judgment!

I think they should fire his ass and revoke all of his hard-earned pension and send him packing if not for justice, than to merely teach him a lesson.

'Course that is just MHO.

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Old 10-31-2009, 06:28 AM   #6
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the 1st question a good attorney will ask you is what is your past driving record like.

Your age and what you drive might have gotten you pulled over 2 or 3 times unfairly...BUT 20 TIMES??? At age 16 I drove a 1973 240z - I was pulled over once - and learned my lesson.

Once your past driving record is brought up, your word against this policeman's isn't going to work.

Time to start thinking about public transportation - buy a good bicycle, learn the bus and train lines...

...if you go into court claiming all those pull overs were because your were 19, they'll go harder on you....instead, think about taking an aggressive drivers training class - if you show up to court with a certificate that you finished a class like this, and take personal accountability for your driving, they might go easier on you.

And get the best attorney you can afford.

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Old 10-31-2009, 11:39 AM   #7
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You may not believe it, but yes I have been pulled over that many time and most of them either were for harassment tickets that ended up being dropped in court or just to check my license and registration. Ive only had one ticket on my record which was a speeding ticket for being 7mph over the speedlimit on a highway.

It isnt the way I drive, and yes I can blame it on my age and my car.
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Old 10-31-2009, 11:47 AM   #8
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I do believe you've been pulled over that many times, but it wasn't for harassment - it was your driving. But it doesn't matter if I believe it - any sane judge & juror won't believe you, with your record.

My understanding is, in Chicago, it's 3 strikes - not two...are you sure there's not a ticket you're not telling us about? for them to pull your license, you had to be driving recklessly, or have more tickets from your 20 pull-overs.


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Old 10-31-2009, 11:58 AM   #9
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Nope, not at all on the driving. Just like some people have won the lottery two times in a row, its nearly impossible to believe but its happened. Same thing with being pulled over as many times as I have. I only have one ticket on my record besides this "squealing tires".

I just got a copy of my driving record 3 weeks ago for my new job and that was the only thing on it. Also the sheet informing me about the suspension only had that speeding ticket and the squealing tires on it and said

"THIS ORDER IS HEREBY ENTERED BASED ON YOUR HAVING BEEN CONVICTED OF NO LESS THAN TWO OFFENSES AGAINST THE TRAFFIC REGULATION GOVERNING THE MOVEMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES COMMITTED WITHIN ANY TWENTY-FOUR MONTH PERIOD."

1. 8-22-08 SPEEDING 5-15MPH OVER
2 . 9-01-09 SQUEALING OR SCREECHING TIRES



Many people would say its my driving habits, but it isnt for someone who rarely speeds and loves the right lane like it was my long lost puppy.
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Old 10-31-2009, 12:28 PM   #10
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Many people would say its my driving habits, but it isnt for someone who rarely speeds and loves the right lane like it was my long lost puppy.
hmmmm, adam, very odd here - you're statement above doesn't match you're statements on this board from the past. I don't think you're being very truthful with us...sadly, until you stop blaming others (ie, "the man") and start taking some personal accountability, you're going to get pulled over again, lose your license longer, or worse, hurt someone.

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Well some states like Illinois have whats called an "Engine Braking" Law which means flooring it from 0-45 will result in a ticket if caught. .
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Boxster101, personally I think he doesnt give Porsche drivers a bad name, we ALL do it ...

driving isn't a right, it's a privilege, and your privilege is being taken away because the state has determined that you are a risk to yourself, and others...time to learn and grown from the message they are sending you, if not for your own health, but for those you share the road with.
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"THIS ORDER IS HEREBY ENTERED BASED ON YOUR HAVING BEEN CONVICTED OF NO LESS THAN TWO OFFENSES AGAINST THE TRAFFIC REGULATION GOVERNING THE MOVEMENT OF MOTOR VEHICLES COMMITTED WITHIN ANY TWENTY-FOUR MONTH PERIOD."

1. 8-22-08 SPEEDING 5-15MPH OVER
2 . 9-01-09 SQUEALING OR SCREECHING TIRES
So you get your license suspended for a month for 2 infractions within 2 years?? Yikes, you've got some harsh regs!
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MY LICENSE IS TO BE SUSPENDED FOR 1 MONTH... guess when? 11/03/09-12/03/09. I got the letter 5 days before my license is to be suspended.

With out my license... I will FAIL this entire semester of school that I paid for. (I drive to my school that is 15 miles away 7-9 times a week) Also I WILL LOSE MY JOB because I cant drive.

Now I only have 3 days left to do something about it.
Here's my advice.
First thing on Monday morning, start calling all the lawyers you can find in the phone book. Get to talk to as many as you possibly can for free that very day.

Once you have a game plan from the lawyers, do an internet search on the ones you like the most, to see who has the best and worst press of all of them. Pick the one with the best looking internet history overall.

Once you have your lawyer and situation under control, go to the DMV place that gives you license plates for your car, and get new ones. As soon as you can do this, the better.

Sometimes, police officers will put a license plate into the system to be pulled over and questioned at any time the plate is spotted. This might have happened to your plate after so many run ins with the police, and so few actual convictions.

If you get a new plate on your car, it might take them a while to get your new plate in the system, and start bugging you again.

Some police jurisdictions have a computer system that identifies license plates as their camera runs all the plates that it reads as the cop car runs through traffic. If there's a warrant out for the owner of the car, or the registration or insurance is lapsed on the car, the computer system flashes a message to the police officer, and pulls up the plate info, for the officer to conduct a traffic stop of the car.

I'm not 100% saying that this is what is happening, or that the police put a flag in the system on your car, but I am saying that it is a possibility.

Change your plates.
See what happens.

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I am almost positive you can't get plates under suspension. We had that problem at our dealership. People under suspension or without a DL would come in to buy a car and we would have to put in somebody elses name.
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