Zeintop installed

[landrovered]

I am extremely wary of Z-art, he has a lot of pissed off Europeans flaming him. Lots of promises and no follow through.

[Z-art]

Nice to hear ur opinion about me.....people like you make a lot of blahblah ....but if you ask them for binding agreement to order they dont even response anymore. I make a poll couple of month ago in facebook ...... 4 only wanna order. I do not asking for any down payment like Zeintec do before i just need 20 or more binding orders because tooling and hardware cost a lot of money and I just wanna be sure that i get at least that $$$ back. I was looking over month to find some one like a sonsor or partner who is willing to set up a company in the states with me I have all the know how to do. But lots of promises only. thats the fact...believe or not.

[MileHighBoxster]

Originally Posted by Z-art

Nice to hear ur opinion about me.....people like you make a lot of blahblah ....but if you ask them for binding agreement to order they dont even response anymore. I make a poll couple of month ago in facebook ...... 4 only wanna order. I do not asking for any down payment like Zeintec do before i just need 20 or more binding orders because tooling and hardware cost a lot of money and I just wanna be sure that i get at least that $$$ back. I was looking over month to find some one like a sonsor or partner who is willing to set up a company in the states with me I have all the know how to do. But lots of promises only. thats the fact...believe or not.

Real businesses don't solicit for venture capitalists on Facebook. They go to a bank or financial backer with a business plan and get the money. Then you start making tops for sale. When you become a legitimate business let me know and maybe I'll buy one from you. Until then your history doesn't warrant serious consideration. You know, put up or ......

[Mrmaddbrad]

Originally Posted by Z-art

Nice to hear ur opinion about me.....people like you make a lot of blahblah ....but if you ask them for binding agreement to order they dont even response anymore. I make a poll couple of month ago in facebook ...... 4 only wanna order. I do not asking for any down payment like Zeintec do before i just need 20 or more binding orders because tooling and hardware cost a lot of money and I just wanna be sure that i get at least that $$$ back. I was looking over month to find some one like a sonsor or partner who is willing to set up a company in the states with me I have all the know how to do. But lots of promises only. thats the fact...believe or not.

Definatly agree with the idea of going to a bank and getting a loan to start this business man!

But if its money up front that you need, why don't you just ask for cost of materials up front, put in an order. Make that one top, send it after they pay the rest in full.

Just saying... Any idea on a cost? Do they look like the top on the black boxster (err... cayman boxster? lol) on your facebook page?

[thstone]

Originally Posted by Mrmaddbrad

Definatly agree with the idea of going to a bank and getting a loan to start this business man!

But if its money up front that you need, why don't you just ask for cost of materials up front, put in an order. Make that one top, send it after they pay the rest in full.

Banks won't loan you a dime unless you already have your business up and running and can show them a strong financial history of sales/profits. OR if you're willing to put up personal collateral, like the equity in your house, against the loan. What Z-art really needs is an angel investor/partner.

And the problem with asking for material costs up front is that its very hard (if not impossible) to buy only the material needed to produce one unit and even if you could, it would be too expensive.

To get a decent price on raw materials, a manufacturer has to buy in some level of bulk and it appears that z-art has determined that means a minimum quantity of 20 units before he can start up production.

I recently purchased the design of an electronic controller and had to fund the manufacture and assy of 50 circuit boards out of my own pocket in order to meet the cost/profit/price target. Any fewer and I either had to raise the price (and lose sales) or not make any profit (because of higher material costs).

[Mrmaddbrad]

Haha yes I knew this... But I meant instead of asking for people to pay for their top beforehand. Just ask for material costs. After 20 or so people sign up and have payed, begin production. Sounds easy enough..

They are great looking tops. Still looking for the idea of a price on what these tops costs lol

[Z-art]

Hi there ...the top will look like on the black Boxster, just like to tell I am the Inventor of that top

[Russ22]

Originally Posted by Z-art

Hi there ...the top will look like on the black Boxster, just like to tell I am the Inventor of that top

Can you please make contact - I can assist in many ways, not only in production, but premises & all aspects to get the top back to market & production - please reply to hopefully enable telephone contact - kind regards - Russ

[Splitpin]

What would the cost be to the UK

[Splitpin]

Is there any news on these being made?

[Mr_Brightside]

There is a member of Boxa.net in the Uk that is selling his Zeintop on ebay.

Zeintop for 986 Boxster | eBay

[eomak]

Thanks all .

[Richt]

I would take one in an instant, no money down, payment upon receipt. Sounds a fair deal if they can deliver in a reasonable timescale!

[Z-art]

your fund is safe if you pay by paypal....if you know a safer way for both ...let me know...

[Mrmaddbrad]

If you could just give us dimensions and weight that would be nice. That way I can make my own shipping quote since it has taken you a few months... And where would it be shipping from?

So far i have read that the top weighs 99lbs but no other info is available as far as dimensions.

[Z-art]

Hi, I`m just on the way to relocate....pls if u have more question mail me zeinecke@bluewin.ch

[Z-art]

Originally Posted by Mrmaddbrad

If you could just give us dimensions and weight that would be nice. That way I can make my own shipping quote since it has taken you a few months... And where would it be shipping from?

So far i have read that the top weighs 99lbs but no other info is available as far as dimensions.

Hi, shipping will be from South Africa Cape Town, I can tell u the size of the Box in metric system only ...sorry for that, 1,60 x 1.60 x 0,60 all in meter, weight 986 top 45 lbs hatch 28 LBS including glass

Pls. see our company name and contact details,

OG International cc
PO Box 311 Noordhoek 7979
5 Sauer Road, Ottery, 7800 Cape Town, South Africa
Land line tel. +27 (021) 704 1337 / 704 1331
cell Gary + (0)72 385 8116 Andreas + (0)84 955 3169
mail: gary@ogi.co.za and/or andreas@ogi.co.za

Registration Number: 1996/009069/23
VAT No. 4190177958

You can order now each top in 3 different version:

1. 986 all fiber glass made, includes all hardware/glasses 3400 USD basic version

2. 986 outside roof only Carbon fiber /hatch out side Carbon fiber inside fiber glass made black coat, includes all hardware/glasses 4400 USD

3. 986 all Carbon fiber glass made, includes all hardware/glasses 4800 USD Light version

4. inside part, leather roof for all typ of tops 350 USD red, brown, marone, black or alcantare

5. the same for 987 but starts from 3600.—add 200.—USD more for each of 2. and 3.




all payments should be done by Paypal means your fund are safe.

pricing are in USD, freight will be add by extra charge, all shipping are to the nearest seaport or airport,

by order please make a down payment of 1500 USD payable by PayPal.

Best regards
Andreas

[Desmodromic]

I'm new to the forum and very interested in this hardtop option!

[RandallNeighbour]

Andreas responds slowly, but I've found he checks Facebook weekly. Contact him there.

[Chee_dog]

Let us know when someone actually gets their top. I know even with paypal, it's not that secure.