05-23-2015, 08:19 AM
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What's that smell?
When is this forum going to add a smellerator? We have audio and video; I need the ability to post a smell...
Last summer I noticed the smell coming from under the car in the area of the rear wheels. When the car is put in the garage after a run, the smell fills the garage for awhile then goes away. Sometimes it's noticeable in the cabin while stopped in traffic with the top down. It's kind of an acrid smell, but I can't place it. Sorta metallic.
No codes.
My indy has no idea. He says the exhaust smells ok. The cats show up as a Pass in readiness status on my Durametric.
Here are the facts:
1. New tires installed last spring (2014). The previous winter replaced: a. oil and filter b. brake fluid c. water pump d. AOS, with the j-tube connecting the AOS to the throttle body e. coolant tank, with middle section of the oil filler tube 2. Metallic? brake? smell from rear of car started last summer while away on trip.
3. On the way home from the trip, after running all day, two instances of misfire and flashing CEL (<10 s each) within 10 minutes
4. Ran ok for 1/2 h after that, then shut down for 2 h, then run for another hour.
5. No codes from generic reader. Then accidentally hit erase button after checking for codes.
6. Pulled coils - small cracks - did not replace.
7. Pulled plugs - all looked good (not old). Replaced.
8. Replaced plug tubes and o-rings.
9. Cleaned MAF.
10. Sat for winter.
11. Started well and has run well this spring. No misfires or flashing CEL.
12. This spring when I got a Durametric it showed "Fail" for catalytic converter efficiency Ready Status. Now that the car has been driven a few times and gone through some drive cycles, it shows "Pass".
13. Smell still shows up after getting up to temp.
I don't think it's brakes, as the rear brakes are cooler to the touch that the fronts. I don't see any tears in or grease from CV boots. It's not the sweet smell of coolant and the tank level is constant.
Durametric is a cool tool, but I don't know if I should be looking at some actual values, and what the normal readings for those actual values should be.
If anyone has any suggestions, I'm all ears. Please.
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05-24-2015, 07:04 AM
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Check to see if your rims are very hot after driving. You may have a sticking caliper.
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05-24-2015, 07:14 AM
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Burning clutch is a nasty smell. Is your clutch slipping? Or do you notice it after riding the clutch too much?
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05-24-2015, 07:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jager
Burning clutch is a nasty smell. Is your clutch slipping? Or do you notice it after riding the clutch too much?
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The clutch isn't slipping. I'm very careful about not riding the clutch. And I do very little city driving.
Thanks for the suggestion, though.
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05-24-2015, 04:40 PM
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Second guess, parking brakes not fully releasing. Playing off the smell described as it indicates clutch or brakes. Diagnose by lifting rear and spinning tires.
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05-24-2015, 04:46 PM
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Thanks James, I'll give it a try. But wouldn't that show up as hotter wheel?
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05-24-2015, 07:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamesp
Check to see if your rims are very hot after driving. You may have a sticking caliper.
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The rears are the same temp and less than the fronts, which I think is about right. Thanks for the suggestion.
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05-25-2015, 04:24 AM
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My guess is parking brake as well. They can stick, and smell. I had that issue then replaced mine.
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05-25-2015, 01:14 PM
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Just my $0.02: acrid smells are almost always electrical - something burns up and you smell it for a while, but they do not last. And if they do then there is usually no question where they are coming from. Metallic smells are usually something that contains metal rubbing - brakes, bearings, etc...
Smells that come and go and last for months are usually paranoia. At the very least, and having been checked out by an Indy, I'd relax and let it play out. Chances are at this point that whatever it is will give you sufficient warning prior to complete failure that you'll have time to deal with it.
Good luck...
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05-25-2015, 01:54 PM
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I get that smell. always have. I was told tire compound getting up on my exhaust.
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05-25-2015, 06:19 PM
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It doesn't really smell like what I would call burning rubber. I had considered the new tires at one point too, just because it was a change.
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05-31-2015, 07:26 AM
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I have had that same smell but only in the fall and early spring when they use de iceing on the roads. I find it stinks on the hot exhaust.
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05-31-2015, 10:47 AM
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manual or tiptronic?
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06-01-2015, 10:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fintro11
I have had that same smell but only in the fall and early spring when they use de iceing on the roads. I find it stinks on the hot exhaust.
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Hey Martin, I know the smell you mean, this isn't that.
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05-31-2015, 12:05 PM
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Have you ruled out a minor drip from the cam cover? Mine (2001) smells of burning oil (slightly) after a long run. It has new tubes and O-rings, but the oil is coming from around one of the cam cover bolts. Most evident after I close the garage.
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06-01-2015, 10:00 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sandia
Have you ruled out a minor drip from the cam cover? Mine (2001) smells of burning oil (slightly) after a long run. It has new tubes and O-rings, but the oil is coming from around one of the cam cover bolts. Most evident after I close the garage.
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Mine also is most noticeable in a closed garage after 10-15 minutes.
I changed the plug tubes after I first noticed the smell last summer, because I was getting some leaking. There is firm oil/dirt mixture on the bottom of the cam cover edge, which I've tried to clean off as best as possible. No residue on top of the cat that I can feel (I can't see anything with a mirror but honestly it's hard to tell).
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06-01-2015, 10:04 AM
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I took apart one rear brake to have a look at the park brake. Looks good. I set up the park brakes to get the four clicks. Will check for smell again. Don't honestly think this is the solution, but we'll see.
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06-01-2015, 08:25 AM
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On the tiptronics, when they run hot you can smell a synthetic oil smell, almost like burning synthetic oil, but not... lol
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06-01-2015, 09:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by healthservices
On the tiptronics, when they run hot you can smell a synthetic oil smell, almost like burning synthetic oil, but not... lol
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Manual tranny.
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06-01-2015, 10:56 AM
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also check your cv boots - they might be throwing some grease at high speeds. another place to look on the 5-speed is where the shift linkage enters the transmission case - you can get some weeping there as the bushing develops play over the years. or, rms weeping enough oil that it gets on the clutch but not enough to show on the bottom of the engine/transmission interface.
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