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Old 08-10-2014, 01:40 PM   #1
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bearing carrier-next ?

new at this.can someone tell what do I due next after I drop bearing carrier in crank case half. if I turn it over right now it will fall out of place.

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new at this.can someone tell what do I due next after I drop bearing carrier in crank case half. if I turn it over right now it will fall out of place.
Use head bolts with spacers to secure it in place while turning it over to other side untill you install other case half. Many people use deep well sockets for spacers.
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Old 08-10-2014, 04:31 PM   #3
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cool. i will do you have any pics of that.(i must do this right) the book i have and literature sucks.theres nothing else out there that will tell you step by step.
you would think,if i took it apart. but truth is i didn't. its like a puzzle with 100k pieces. I'm a victim of a Porsche shop that screwed allot of people. got it all back in a box.
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cool. i will do you have any pics of that.(i must do this right) the book i have and literature sucks.theres nothing else out there that will tell you step by step.

you would think,if i took it apart. but truth is i didn't. its like a puzzle with 100k pieces. I'm a victim of a Porsche shop that screwed allot of people. got it all back in a box.

Care to share the shop, coming from another s.c. Owner I just want to avoid any bad experiences myself. Not knowledgeable enough to help you but best of luck.
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Old 08-11-2014, 05:10 AM   #5
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Wow whats the story here?
How do you have a cleaned and assembled bearing case and a cleaned/painted engine block case and your asking what to do next??
Was the bearing case disassembled?

flat6innovations - engine assembly and other technical articles
glenn986s - web page and you tube

rennlist, renntech,6speed - google 986 rebuild, then be carefull what you read!

Bentley Books - there is the Porsche Boxster 986 which is good but when you get as deep down into the engine as you are the info runs out. The Porsche 911 (996) 1999-2005 has an extra chapter going a little deeper into the engine but not bearing case. This info in the 996 book is only relevant to 986 owners who have a M96/24 engine (2003-2004 Boxster S 3.2L).

What type of engine do you have?
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Care to share the shop, coming from another s.c. Owner I just want to avoid any bad experiences myself
I'm guessing MotorMeister?? We've been buying items form the liquidation/auction.
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Like you .I am doing the same job for the first time. The lack of detailed info in a single definitive source is a huge problem.The engine is unusual in many ways and very intolerant of even slight errors. The parts are expensive if they are unique to these low volume engines.Some have been updated significantly so even if the old parts are still O.K. ,they should be replaced if funds permit.
My advice is do lots of research and bookmark every site/post you can find.It becomes a significant organizational task to comb through all the scattered sites and sort all the info for the same part/procedure to the same section of bookmarks.
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Dood. That thing needs a few more chains!
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Why would we share what we have learned?

The funny part? Follow up with those who have assembled their engines on their own. See how they are doing today. Before Jake's class? NOBODY really knew jack about the M96. We applied 20+ years of engine building to figure it all and UPDATE everything (as you said) Just figuring out what was updated can be a monumental task if you don't have something as simple as the latest PET update.

We use combinations from M97's we've seen to assemble the m96 engines also. Never pulled apart a M97? then you wont know what Porsche did to fix some of the issues.
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Jake Raby has a rebuild class.....worth every penny. You may want to sign up. He will show you how to do it all. Look him up on the net.
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everything was disassembled. like in a box.....when you take something apart.(from the start) you know.you organize your self and set things by and theres order.but when some S.O.B in Downey C.A steels your parts and money deposited. and sends it all back in a homedepot cement mixing box and a pallet what do you do.it becomes the greatest 100K piece puzzle you ever built.?so yes I'm asking some F#$% up questions.
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Old 08-14-2014, 04:18 AM   #12
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Try this link it is Porsche 986 parts catalogue.

http://www.porsche.com/all/media/pdf/originalparts/usa/986_USA_KATALOG.pdf

Google porsche boxster 986 workshop manual. There's a free version floating around out there, its for the earlier 986 not the 03-04.

What year is yours?
Did you have to assemble the Bearing Carrier?
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Jake Raby has a rebuild class.....worth every penny. You may want to sign up. He will show you how to do it all. Look him up on the net.
We are hosting this class as we speak.... This very week, my next one is in December.
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We are hosting this class as we speak.... This very week, my next one is in December.
Do you have a date set yet? I hate working on other people's cars but would love to just have the knowledge.
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Mr.Roberts wrote"Why would we share what we have learned?

The funny part? Follow up with those who have assembled their engines on their own. See how they are doing today. Before Jake's class? NOBODY really knew jack about the M96. We applied 20+ years of engine building to figure it all and UPDATE everything (as you said) Just figuring out what was updated can be a monumental task if you don't have something as simple as the latest PET update.

We use combinations from M97's we've seen to assemble the m96 engines also. Never pulled apart a M97? then you wont know what Porsche did to fix some of the issues. "

The OP is asking for help.He is in an awful situation.I am in the same situation and trying to help him.That is the basis of the Forum-helping each other.I understand you covet your knowledge,but is it necessary to gloat over the Op's misfortune and refuse to help while the rest of us try to help him ? And you are a commercial sponsor who uses such a Post to promote your business.You might reflect on what impression it gives .I'll assume it was unintentional but thought you would appreciate knowing how badly it comes across.
If the Op would like to contact me off line,I'll gladly share the list of bookmarked helpful Posts from this Forum that I am using while trying to do the same task as the OP.

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I rebuilt my engine in my garage with the help of this forum (thanks everbody!) and it is running GREAT! I push it to redline multiple times every time I drive it and go through the gears at WOT at every freeway on ramp if I can do so safely. You have a chance to vent your IMS and I'd recommend it even if you are going with a non stock bearing but especially if you are going back to the stock greased bearing. Also in reassembly there are two specialty bolts with round heads and an O ring seal that extend from the outside of the engine case to the bearing carrier. One is slightly longer than the other. Do not mix these up or the longer bolt will pop out a slug of aluminum that will end up in your oil pan. If/when a chain picks up the slug, bad things happen to the engine.
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Great info James.Thanks for sharing.I'll be sure to check that.
That is what this Forum is about!
Good example of -if you don't measure and label and catalog and photograph+tag everything -it could be bad.
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First off, the M97 isn't a different engine- new name. Thats how we look at it, because we see the same issues and some that are M97 specific.

Details about my classes are found here:

Engine Rebuild School

I am adding many new classes in 2014, to include a performance M96/M97 class, Cayenne Engine Class, DFI engine class and several other hands on enthusiast level classes on top of the classes that are developed for technicians.

As far as sharing info goes, we share a lot, but we know a lot more.
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Old 08-16-2014, 09:52 AM   #19
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Jake, When is your book coming out ?????
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First off, the M97 isn't a different engine- new name. Thats how we look at it, because we see the same issues and some that are M97 specific.
As far as sharing info goes, we share a lot, but we know a lot more.
I need to acknowledge that Jake Raby has been more than generous in sharing hard-won knowledge in answering my questions. And he knows it is unlikely I'll ever be able to afford one of his engines. Though I'll certainly pay full price for his upcoming book-The Definitive Guide to the M96.
Some of his responses are rather amusingly cryptic -but that is fine with me.If someone is too lazy to try hard to learn ... And he certainly doesn't deride anyone for trying to learn about the M96. To be honest,after my engine died in the first week of ownership(!) I would have sold it and gone back to Jags & Miatas if it wasn't for his posts on the M96. It gave me just enough info to decide to remain a Boxster owner and M96 apprentice.Many parts vendors have subsequently benefited(including LN) as a result of his generosity

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