03-15-2021, 12:03 PM
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I'm in no way disagreeing with what 10 said, it's how he said it that I took issue with.
"Maybe you bought a car outside your budget"
That's a rather condescending comment to make.
"Get a honda"
Not any better.
The forum is supposed to be a place to share knowledge and to offer advice, not to make comments about people's cash flow or status in life.
Too many of these posts wind up with this condescending elitism bull**************** about how great porsche is, how we love to spend money on these cars, and those of us who don't should be ashamed of ourselves.
But it's cool, I have no right to tell anyone how to be happy, so if that's what you cling to then good for you. But I will say it over and over again as long as I am active here - these are just cars, have fun with them, and don't be a dick to people for asking questions.
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03-15-2021, 05:52 PM
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Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by ike84
I'm in no way disagreeing with what 10 said, it's how he said it that I took issue with.
"Maybe you bought a car outside your budget"
That's a rather condescending comment to make.
"Get a honda"
Not any better.
The forum is supposed to be a place to share knowledge and to offer advice, not to make comments about people's cash flow or status in life.
Too many of these posts wind up with this condescending elitism bull**************** about how great porsche is, how we love to spend money on these cars, and those of us who don't should be ashamed of ourselves.
But it's cool, I have no right to tell anyone how to be happy, so if that's what you cling to then good for you. But I will say it over and over again as long as I am active here - these are just cars, have fun with them, and don't be a dick to people for asking questions.
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Sorry, but a good case could be made supporting the position that his comments weren't condescending at all. Only realistic and, in that sense, helpful to all, regardless of one's "cash flow or status in life." He was simply pointing out that buying an older Porsche for the seemingly bargain price of under $10K shouldn't lead one to the conclusion that it's all going to be smooth sailing, financially, once the title's in hand.
Just because those comments were made with conviction doesn't make them irrelevant or nasty. Or "elitist." The forum IS a place to share knowledge and offer advice, in a considered, thoughtful and forthright way. Without casting aspersions. "10" could have said,
"Maybe you bought a car outside your budget you dick"
"Hey, dickhead, get a honda"
But he didn't. You see the difference? In that case, he would be rightly condemned as stepping outside what's considered seemly and acceptable within a forum like this. But he didn't do that. You did. More than once. You should have led with "The forum is supposed to be a place to share knowledge and to offer advice, not to make comments about people's cash flow or status in life," NOT "Hey 10, don't be a dick." See the difference? The former makes a valid point, the latter just creates pointless acrimony. Help us all make this a friendly place.
Buy whatever rotgut transmission fluid you like, mix and match various weights and brands to come up with the "magical combination" that makes for peerless shifting. But do so knowing that, just maybe, you're doing so against the advice of those who have learned from experience and know better.
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03-16-2021, 05:15 AM
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"50 Years of 550 Spyder"
Join Date: Jun 2015
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Thanks guys....
....and for what it’s worth, I never bought that Ferrari 308 when they were JUST affordable to me a decade ago because I knew I couldn’t afford the timing belt service and all the other “Ferrari” taxes.
If you met me, you would know I am as far from “Elite” as a janitor at Trump Tower.
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Seriously, though, a 1993 Miata was my only car for over 20 years.
I scrimped and saved and bought the best quality, best maintained 986 I could find.
I have a great local technician and I can turn a mean wrench myself. I grew up in the “Fast & The Furious” days and “Sport Compact Car” magazine.
I WAS that “Rice Boy” kid.
I’m just trying to use whatever old man wisdom I have accumulated over my years to help my fellow forum members. Hopefully my past mistakes can prevent others from suffering the same heartbreaks I brought upon myself.
Just trying to help this awesome collective.
And I’m sorry if my crush washer post sounded harsh, as well.
Cheers, everyone.
Now go out and drive your Boxster.
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03-16-2021, 07:59 AM
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Who's askin'?
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Utah
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Ike, you've got a sympathetic ear here, with me. There are lots of people who won't see this post because they've used the "block user" function. You sound just like me about there being nothing magical (or even particularly unique) about the innards of the Porsche 986.
BUT:
I read this thread and to me, it looks like you took offense where none was intended.
You must remember that for many owners, this car represents a culmination of a dream, and part of that dream is their obsession with OEM-Only, Factory-authorized, laminate-all-the-receipts-and-keep-them-in-a-binder sort of, for lack of a better word; worship. That ain't you, and it ain't me, but there's lots of room for people to love the car in lots of different ways. As with any forum (or any group of people) the answers you get will vary across the spectrum created by the variances of life's experiences.
Yeah, now I'm preaching. sorry.... I'm a Mormon, hahaha.
So, in all reality, 10/10ths is sorta on the money here. Many have tried other lubes and come back with horror stories; to the extent that most have determined that it isn't worth the risk to do otherwise. On my street-986 S, I used the OEM stuff from Suncoast. (But on the Spec Boxster, I didn't. that might tell you where my head is)
Enjoy this forum for the diversity found herein. Try to be a lover, not a fighter.
otherwise, everyone will block you, like they have me. :dance:
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03-16-2021, 01:42 PM
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Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by maytag
otherwise, everyone will block you, like they have me. :dance:
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Maytag! You really think you’ve been all that blocked?? I can’t imagine that—you offer some of the most sage advice I’ve read on this forum. Well, if you are much blocked at least I feel in good company, though I suspect I’m more blocked than you. (This whole discussion kinda puts me in mind of that “I’m rednecker than you” country song.)
I can’t figure out the mentality of “blocking” someone—why would you not just NOT read their posts if you so inclined. They're incapable of just skipping over those posters they don't want to read?? And it’s not like they succeed at a “I’ll show that guy!” by blocking—we don’t even know we’ve been blocked, or by whom. Whatever..
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Originally Posted by 10/10ths
And I’m sorry if my crush washer post sounded harsh, as well.
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Aw hell 10, don’t worry about the crush ring discussion. I’ve been worked over worse than that on quite a few occasions. I usually have it coming. And I learned something important reading through that thread. (I never knew the LN magnetic plug was supposed to be torqued so much more gently compared to the OEM plug. I guess I just got lucky—time after time I’d crank away on the thing when replacing it, torqueing it to roughly the same level as I would the original. I had NO idea they could be stripped out as shown in pics on this thread.
As you say: "Cheers!" And “go out and drive your Boxster.”
It’s always hard to know exactly when winter’s over around here. But it’s almost 60 out there at the moment—I’m actually pretty much ready to break her out of her long hibernation about now! :dance:
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03-16-2021, 01:51 PM
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Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by Frodo
"Cheers!" And “go out and drive your Boxster.”
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You too, Ike.
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03-16-2021, 12:22 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: KY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 10/10ths
....and for what it’s worth, I never bought that Ferrari 308 when they were JUST affordable to me a decade ago because I knew I couldn’t afford the timing belt service and all the other “Ferrari” taxes.
If you met me, you would know I am as far from “Elite” as a janitor at Trump Tower.
��
Seriously, though, a 1993 Miata was my only car for over 20 years.
I scrimped and saved and bought the best quality, best maintained 986 I could find.
I have a great local technician and I can turn a mean wrench myself. I grew up in the “Fast & The Furious” days and “Sport Compact Car” magazine.
I WAS that “Rice Boy” kid.
I’m just trying to use whatever old man wisdom I have accumulated over my years to help my fellow forum members. Hopefully my past mistakes can prevent others from suffering the same heartbreaks I brought upon myself.
Just trying to help this awesome collective.
And I’m sorry if my crush washer post sounded harsh, as well.
Cheers, everyone.
Now go out and drive your Boxster.
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Sorry for overreacting. My life experiences have taught me uniformly that mean people suck and I have a soft spot for the guy on the other end because usually there's no one to stand up for them. I tend to epitomize the "carry a big stick" philosophy lol.
Anyway, cheers to the knowledge base. As pedro would say, happy boxstering!
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2000 Box Base, Renegade Stage 1 performance mods complete, more to come
When the owners manual says that the laws of physics can't be broken by this car, I took it as a challenge...
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11-22-2025, 10:39 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: So Cal
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Just called my Porsche dealer. They don't sell GL4 anymore. They can get GL5. I note on Pelican it seems to say the same thing. But the guy at Porsche is saying this is what Porsche suggests now. Is this true? Or is it just the only thing they have, so they suggest it?
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