When installing Bilstein PSS9s what

[Johnny Danger]

Originally Posted by Flavor 987S

I have PSS9's on my 993 Turbo. Great set-up. But are the 9's still available new? Are these a used set? I'd suggest you go the PSS10 route and get Bilstein's newest offering.

I've had PSS9's installed on my vehicle since 2006. There were no 10's at the time.

[Flavor 987S]

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger

I've had PSS9's installed on my vehicle since 2006. There were no 10's at the time.

Correct. The 10's came out in 2009ish.

[jaykay]

I believe that there are no 10s for the Boxster only 9s.

Thanks Tom for your input. So the limit will be the spec Boxster set up.

I am I correct in thinking that corner balancing will not be accomplished without adjustable drop links and roll bars that can accept them?

Edit looks like JD asked the question already.

[Johnny Danger]

Originally Posted by jaykay

I believe that there are no 10s for the Boxster only 9s.

Thanks Tom for your input. So the limit will be the spec Boxster set up.

I am I correct in thinking that corner balancing will not be accomplished without adjustable drop links and roll bars that can accept them?

Edit looks like JD asked the question already.

JK,

In the absence of adjustable drop links, I think what most knowledgeable race prep guys will do, is adjust the ride height (turns on the perch) to accommodate what changes in ride height will occur when the driver is seated. This as you probably know, is accomplished put simulating your weight during the set-up. While it's not optimal, is probably sufficient for street set-up. That's what was done in the case of my vehicle. I'd like to hear Tom's input on this though.

[jaykay]

I am also being quoted 1 hour installation for rear toe links which I would have thought would have been more than covered by the hours quote for the struts!

Also three additional hours for front LCA....would have thought this would be less when everything is apart!!!

Just a heads up: Rennline links seem to have the locking plates (eccentric adjuster) included where as others have them at an additional cost of $95

Oh yes what do we think about front bump steer?? Is a front toe link needed to combat this problem? My front end is so bad right now that it is hard for me to judge....wallows and understeers like crazy

The rear toe links from tarret and RSS are really great in that one can align them with the LCA for constant toe control with suspension travel

[Topless]

A few added bits...

The PSS9s are good tools but the real magic comes when an experienced suspension tech uses them to corner balance and align the car for it's intended use (street, track, dual purpose) and tire choices. When set up right the car will have increased grip and precision with even tire wear on four corners. That is a win.

Adjustable sways allow for tuning your setup to different tracks which is useful for competition but not necessary for street/DE cars. A well set up PSS9 car still feels very precise even on stock sways.

LCAs are only necessary if you need more than -2 degrees front camber to accommodate "camber hungry" comp tires. My car currently does not have LCAs and we were able to get an excellent dual-purpose setup without them and still get good grip and even tire wear. If I go with a more aggressive Comp tire that generates more lateral Gs, I will probably need LCAs.

Suspension setup is really all about managing your 4 contact patches and varies greatly depending on the tires you choose and your intended use for the car.

[jaykay]

Originally Posted by Topless

A few added bits...

The PSS9s are good tools but the real magic comes when an experienced suspension tech uses them to corner balance and align the car for it's intended use (street, track, dual purpose) and tire choices. When set up right the car will have increased grip and precision with even tire wear on four corners. That is a win.

Adjustable sways allow for tuning your setup to different tracks which is useful for competition but not necessary for street/DE cars. A well set up PSS9 car still feels very precise even on stock sways.

LCAs are only necessary if you need more than -2 degrees front camber to accommodate "camber hungry" comp tires. My car currently does not have LCAs and we were able to get an excellent dual-purpose setup without them and still get good grip and even tire wear. If I go with a more aggressive Comp tire that generates more lateral Gs, I will probably need LCAs.

Suspension setup is really all about managing your 4 contact patches and varies greatly depending on the tires you choose and your intended use for the car.

Great thank you. I don't plan on running anything more aggressive than 140
tread ware in the near future. I do wish to save future labour costs; it may be worth putting them in while things are apart and have a one time coarse set up....