IMS Solution... Price?

[Jake Raby]

Tip cars are the same cost across the board. The added work associated with dealing with the Tip transaxle equals the cost of clutch components.

Mountainman, we consider 3 hours away to be local... We seldom ever get to deal with cars that close to our facility :-)

[Johnny Danger]

This begs the question, if for one reason or another, the IMS Solution is not available to some of us, is the the previous retro-fit IMBS replacement procedure obsolete ?

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by Johnny Danger

This begs the question, if for one reason or another, the IMS Solution is not available to some of us, is the the previous retro-fit IMBS replacement procedure obsolete ?

Its not obsolete and won't be; it just maintains the same ball bearing design and the compromises that go along with it.

The classic IMS Retrofit will continue to be offered, but we are only applying it to the dual row equipped cars as we are not marketing the dual row version of the IMS Solution. I feel when we invent new technology and develop it for our engines that its not fair to our customers unless we globally apply it to every engine that we touch that can utilize it.

[Johnny Danger]

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

Its not obsolete and won't be; it just maintains the same ball bearing design and the compromises that go along with it.

The classic IMS Retrofit will continue to be offered, but we are only applying it to the dual row equipped cars as we are not marketing the dual row version of the IMS Solution. I feel when we invent new technology and develop it for our engines that its not fair to our customers unless we globally apply it to every engine that we touch that can utilize it.

What do you recommend for individuals such as myself who live too far away to have you do the IMS Solution, but want to take preemptive measures against IMS failure ? Quite, simply, should I do the IMS retro-fit, or keep my fingers crossed and wait until a qualified installer in my area can do the IMS Solution ?

[Ckrikos]

I think for a stock motor the LN IMS bearing is all that's needed and just replaced with each clutch replacement and/or checked anytime you're in that area. The IMS solution is a great technology, but for the cost it should probably only be an option for jakes high cost high hp motors. I think this because there are other modes of failure that probably have a higher failure probability than the LN IMSB (such as the chain guides).

I could be wrong, and if I am Jake, can you provide some rough numbers as to what the likelihood of any of the other modes of failure are? Are they fairly low?

BTW I'm getting my LN IMSB installed next month.

[Johnny Danger]

Originally Posted by Ckrikos

I think for a stock motor the LN IMS bearing is all that's needed and just replaced with each clutch replacement and/or checked anytime you're in that area. The IMS solution is a great technology, but for the cost it should probably only be an option for jakes high cost high hp motors. I think this because there are other modes of failure that probably have a higher failure probability than the LN IMSB (such as the chain guides).

I could be wrong, and if I am Jake, can you provide some rough numbers as to what the likelihood of any of the other modes of failure are? Are they fairly low?

BTW I'm getting my LN IMSB installed next month.

Thanks for your response, but with all due respect, since my vehicle only has 20k original miles on it, I would hope to find myself in an assisted living community, more than I would the need to replace the IMSB more than once !

[Ckrikos]

That's even more of a reason to get the LN IMSB, you drive so infrequently that the 50k mile maintenance interval on the LN IMSB will be in a long time. My car has 47k miles on it over 10 years. When I first bought it I drove it a lot more, now I hope to get 4-5k miles in p/year. I hope not to worry about it for another 10 years.