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Old 04-11-2011, 07:44 PM   #1
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With all due respect, the PSE exhaust has nothing to do with the secondary cats as far as sound is concerned . Again, by eliminately the secondaries, one reduces unnecessary weight, along with some back pressure . There might be a slight change in "note", but overall the sound difference is negligible .
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Old 04-11-2011, 08:12 PM   #2
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Thanks so much for the info! I will have to do some more research. It may be something I do this summer.
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Old 04-11-2011, 08:42 PM   #3
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With all due respect, the PSE exhaust has nothing to do with the secondary cats as far as sound is concerned . Again, by eliminately the secondaries, one reduces unnecessary weight, along with some back pressure . There might be a slight change in "note", but overall the sound difference is negligible .
Amen to that
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Old 04-12-2011, 03:05 AM   #4
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I'm in Charlottesville VA and I've done the Fabspeed pipes along with headers and a Borla muffler (along with many other mods). The car is an 00 S, and it is definitely snappier than stock. If you'd like to hear it and go for a ride, I do most of the Shenandoah PCA events along with many of the VMSC and SCCA autocrosses.
Last year I was at Hershey and Fabspeed had a booth. With a bit of negotiation, I'm sure you could get a deal on the pipes. Are they worth it? I think so. They are significantly lighter than the cats, flow waaay better, and open up the sound nicely. I priced the materials a while back, and to get them built with the same materials using mandrel bends, you'd still spend $300 or so.
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I have a different situation with the Fabspeed pipes, as far as sound is concerned. I installed a "PSE type" muffler, modified by Oettle Autodienst on my '02 S. I was pleased with the sound, but it still didn't have the bark or tone I wanted. I happened across a pair of slightly used Fabspeed secondary pipes and purchased them quite inexpensively. After installing, the sound of my exhaust was night and day; quite raspy and GT3 like on throttle, but very well demeanored cruising. And as the others stated, I removed a considerable amount of weight. The pipes were definitely worth the expense and time to install.
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Old 04-12-2011, 05:38 AM   #6
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Do the complete Fabspeed exhaust system. I got mine used.

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Old 04-12-2011, 05:42 AM   #7
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Go ahead and get them along with a BMC air filter. Great results with the PSE.

If you have extra cash, get some TurboWerx headers too. Then the sound is really nice and you will get more power. Love my setup!!
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I already have an EVOMS intake on the car. Where do the o2 sensors go after the fabspeed bypass are installed?
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Old 07-27-2011, 12:37 PM   #9
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I have a different situation with the Fabspeed pipes, as far as sound is concerned. I installed a "PSE type" muffler, modified by Oettle Autodienst on my '02 S. I was pleased with the sound, but it still didn't have the bark or tone I wanted. I happened across a pair of slightly used Fabspeed secondary pipes and purchased them quite inexpensively. After installing, the sound of my exhaust was night and day; quite raspy and GT3 like on throttle, but very well demeanored cruising. And as the others stated, I removed a considerable amount of weight. The pipes were definitely worth the expense and time to install.
I have the same setup (Fister/Pedro/"PSE" mod), only with Stebro bypass pipes bought cheap off a lister. It's mellow top up on the highway, but I have to admit it's pretty freeking loud when I jump on it! Awesome GT3 note
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