Rear suspension problem and the ROW M030 European suspension as a solution - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

gwoodburn · 10-21-2010, 07:46 AM

Yup, thought of the toe control links. Just didn't want to have to buy something else if I didn't have to and would rather not use it as a "band-aid" to get the alignment right. I would rather know the source of the problem and fix that. If the ROW kit doesn't fix it, then your suggestion of getting a body shop to look at it is probably what I'll try next. If that doesn't work, then I'd probably go with the adjustable toe arms. Thanks for the suggestions!!!

Cloudsurfer · 10-21-2010, 06:41 PM

The RoW M030 is about the best you can get for a livable street car. You will want the adjustable toe links.

blue2000s · 10-21-2010, 07:11 PM

OK, I pulled up the ROW spec sheet.

Front Camber per side: -0*45' to 0*15'
Front Toe per side: 0*0' to 0*05'
Front cross camber: -0*20' to 0*20'
Front total toe: 0*00' to 0*10'

Rear Camber per side: -2*00' to -1*00'
Rear Toe per side: 0*0' to 0*10'
Rear cross camber: -0*20' to 0*20'
Rear total toe: -0*10' to 0*10'

You definitely shouldn't need any additional adjustable links to meet this spec. If you do, something is wrong.

harryrcb · 10-21-2010, 07:12 PM

I just purchased a ROW kit from Suncoast last week for a friend and suncoast informed me that the kit will no longer be available from Porsche and that he sold me the last kit, so if you plan on doing that I suggest you don't waist any time and see if you can still get one.
I installed mine about a year ago and when I first put it on it appeared as if it did not drop much at all but in about a week it got lower to just over 1"
Handling improve considerably but its still street friendly.
as far as something being bent in the rear, it is certainly possible after a collision. the only way I know that you can find out for sure take it to a Porsche body shop and have them put it on their frame jig, they will be able to tell you how far off everything is.
Good luck with everything. BTW carfax does suck, I bought a Boxster with a clean report but after getting it up on the lift found out it had damage as well.

Jaxonalden · 10-21-2010, 07:37 PM

Carfax only reports whats turned into dealerships (servicing), DMV (registration) and insurance claims. If you get in a fender bender and not claim it and fix it yourself that of course will not be on a Carfax report.

Garage in, garbage out. The buyer is responsible for a full and detailed inspection before money changes hands.

gwoodburn · 10-22-2010, 06:21 AM

[QUOTE=harryrcb]I just purchased a ROW kit from Suncoast last week for a friend and suncoast informed me that the kit will no longer be available from Porsche and that he sold me the last kit, so if you plan on doing that I suggest you don't waist any time and see if you can still get one.
I installed mine about a year ago and when I first put it on it appeared as if it did not drop much at all but in about a week it got lower to just over 1"
Handling improve considerably but its still street friendly.
as far as something being bent in the rear, it is certainly possible after a collision. the only way I know that you can find out for sure take it to a Porsche body shop and have them put it on their frame jig, they will be able to tell you how far off everything is.
Good luck with everything. BTW carfax does suck, I bought a Boxster with a clean report but after getting it up on the lift found out it had damage as well.[/QUOTE

Suncoast told me this as well when I talked to them a few months ago. I was probably going to pick it up from design911 out of the UK. After shipping they actually sell it cheaper than suncoast!

So If I am unable to get this kit, what would be the next best option for a daily driver? Also, are the sway bars with the ROW kit any different than the ones on my 03 S?

harryrcb · 10-23-2010, 04:19 PM

Suncoast told me this as well when I talked to them a few months ago. I was probably going to pick it up from design911 out of the UK. After shipping they actually sell it cheaper than suncoast!

So If I am unable to get this kit, what would be the next best option for a daily driver? Also, are the sway bars with the ROW kit any different than the ones on my 03 S?[/QUOTE]

there really is no "street" substitute and YES the swaybars are bigger. It is my believe though unconfirmed that Porsche is only getting rid of the "kit" you will still be able to buy the individual components, trouble is, it will cost almost twice as much. I need to write the part numbers down from the individual componenets on the kit I'm installing on my friends car and post them, give me a couple of days .
the only other suspension are the ps10 but I think they are a little harsch for the road, all depends on how you like it.
Harry

JettaGLi16v · 10-24-2010, 11:53 AM

For what it's worth,
My alignment guy has an old school tool he says can correct this issue.

He is a complete alignment badass...
Guy does nothing but alignments, for over 30 years,
and uses no electric tools:
Bubble camber gauge,
"tire-scuff wear gauge"
and many trips around the block,
but he is always 100% on.

On my last trip, (first trip in the Box)
we had a little bit more toe in on the left than the right. Not much, just an RCH or so...
His reasons for this were as follows:
1) accident (never looked at the carfax, I don't care)
2) maybe the struts were not installed dead nuts even? I am not sure if this is possible, but I do know the struts just kind of clamp in to the bearing carrier, and maybe there is some slop there?

He had a really big, really heavy tool that bolts on to the wheel studs,
and allows fine adjustments by actually bending the (strut / bearing carrier / etc...)
and he offered to me that he can bring anything into alignment, regardless of what happened.

He told me this tool is older than me (30 yrs), but you know they dont build them like they used to.

just an idea.
-Brad

HB. · 12-25-2010, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harryrcb

I just purchased a ROW kit from Suncoast last week for a friend and suncoast informed me that the kit will no longer be available from Porsche and that he sold me the last kit

I'm not sure what the Suncoast rep was talking about, I ordered my kit last week, which just arrived yesterday! I can't wait to have the kit installed, but it won't be until after the holidays before it gets done.