How to remain behind the wheel?

[boxster or briefs]

Hello all. I am a new owner of a 2003 boxster s and even newer member to this forum so pardon the ignorance. I just started autocrossing and I am hooked. I am wondering if anyone has expierence using the "CG-Lock" seat belt lock to keep you centered behind the wheel when autocrossing? I am tired of cleaning the inside driver's side window from my cheek marks. If anyone has a suggestion other than the CG-Lock it would be appreciated too....short of replacing existing seat with racing seats. Thanks in advance.

[Topless]

When driving my stock Boxter I just use the "dead" pedal to press my butt back in the seat when cornering. My only other experience is racing seats with 5 point harness. Very secure and not very comfortable. Some guys put a twist in their lap belt to keep it tight.

[racer_d]

Untill you change the seat, the rest are all just compromises..

1) CG lock can be helpful
2) Bracing your left leg on the dead pedal when not shifting is helpful

I used to latch my 3pt, then pull up on the shoulder part of the belt and found that was sufficient. I never ran a CG lock

However, if you hop in a car that has, say GT3 seats, Recaro or Sparco race seats, you will quickly realize just how much of your energy is going into "staying still" instead of driving.

you must have really big cheeks to leave marks on the window (oh yeah, no matter how cold, you are always faster with windows and top down

[der Geist]

Racer_d is 100% correct. I have the gt3 seats but not the harness. What I usually do is lock the belt and then slide the seat forward. This tightens up the lap portion of the belt considerably. Gotta get those 6 point harnesses I have been told if I want to DE and have GT3 seats.

[j.fro]

Wow, I can't believe they're letting you run with the windows up! I thought that "windows down" was a basic safety regulation.
Anyway, here goes with my 2-cents:
I auto-x with the seat considerably more forward than if I'm just driving and I feel more planted in the seat. Also, I had a very experienced 944 racer show me a trick. He uses one of those soft tool tray liners in his seat. The ol' backside feels glued to the leather.

[mdex]

Windows down is actually not safe.... there is a reason that race cars have nets. If you roll the car your natural reaction is to reach out to stop your fall... there have been cases where people have reached out of the open window and then had their arm crushed by the car.

Oh, and on topic nothing is as good as a seat... and the good news is in our cars with the top down it isn't that bad to swap the seats in and out with the stock ones as needed.

[racer_d]

Originally Posted by der Geist

Racer_d is 100% correct. I have the gt3 seats but not the harness. What I usually do is lock the belt and then slide the seat forward. This tightens up the lap portion of the belt considerably. Gotta get those 6 point harnesses I have been told if I want to DE and have GT3 seats.

That seems odd that they would require 6pt belts. The GT3 seats were used in europe in conjunction with the factory 3pt belt. Now, you may need to re-route the belt to make sure it goes through the sholder and lap holes as provided, if not already done so. That said, the extra snugness (and safety) that harnesses provide is nice too

Thats one drawback to PCA regions.. the national sets a minimum standard and then the regions try to "one up" it to make them feel safer and less liable. Off topic, i know, but its just silly. Especially when one wants to run with multiple regions.

[der Geist]

Originally Posted by racer_d

That seems odd that they would require 6pt belts. The GT3 seats were used in europe in conjunction with the factory 3pt belt. Now, you may need to re-route the belt to make sure it goes through the sholder and lap holes as provided, if not already done so. That said, the extra snugness (and safety) that harnesses provide is nice too

Thats one drawback to PCA regions.. the national sets a minimum standard and then the regions try to "one up" it to make them feel safer and less liable. Off topic, i know, but its just silly. Especially when one wants to run with multiple regions.

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What's even more frustrating is that the local PCA doesn't have these new "rules" published anywhere. And they don't return emails. For the record I was told they are only requiring 5 point belts at this point but I shoiuld just get the six point as the change would only be a matter of time.