How to remain behind the wheel?

[der Geist]

Originally Posted by racer_d

That seems odd that they would require 6pt belts. The GT3 seats were used in europe in conjunction with the factory 3pt belt. Now, you may need to re-route the belt to make sure it goes through the sholder and lap holes as provided, if not already done so. That said, the extra snugness (and safety) that harnesses provide is nice too

Thats one drawback to PCA regions.. the national sets a minimum standard and then the regions try to "one up" it to make them feel safer and less liable. Off topic, i know, but its just silly. Especially when one wants to run with multiple regions.

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What's even more frustrating is that the local PCA doesn't have these new "rules" published anywhere. And they don't return emails. For the record I was told they are only requiring 5 point belts at this point but I shoiuld just get the six point as the change would only be a matter of time.

[Topless]

PCA Zone 8 still allows a 3 pt for DE and Time trials as long as you are in a stock class.

[racer_d]

Originally Posted by der Geist

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What's even more frustrating is that the local PCA doesn't have these new "rules" published anywhere. And they don't return emails. For the record I was told they are only requiring 5 point belts at this point but I shoiuld just get the six point as the change would only be a matter of time.

The main difference between 5 and 6 pt is how they hit you in the balls., 6 pt avoid the balls better than 5.

In reality, I think you need only look at the PCA Clubrace rules as a guideline for futre DE requirements.

The region to region stuff sucks because region A might say you need no extra safety equipment but region B says, if you're at a certain run group, you practically need a dedicated car. This DE stuff has progressed so freaking far from just "enjoying your car on the track".. rant off, for now

[mtch]

Speaking of DE's, is anyone having trouble with the convertible top / roll bar / broomstick test? The 987 has an improved roll bar, but I'm working with a 986 right now and I've run into problems. Some regions communicate inconsistant info regarding the roll bar requirements. It's getting to the point that I'll only attend DE's with my local because you never know if you'll get to run until you show up for tech inspection.

[racer_d]

Originally Posted by mtch

Speaking of DE's, is anyone having trouble with the convertible top / roll bar / broomstick test? The 987 has an improved roll bar, but I'm working with a 986 right now and I've run into problems. Some regions communicate inconsistant info regarding the roll bar requirements. It's getting to the point that I'll only attend DE's with my local because you never know if you'll get to run until you show up for tech inspection.

That's another weak spot.. can vary with the regions AND the tracks.

For instance, VIR requires a BK Bar on all 986 Boxsters regardless of meeting the broomstick test without one

Some regions don't care.. Others mandate the BK bar.. Others "substitute" the BK bar for the Hardtop. I had this problem last spring. My local region said either BK or Hardtop. Another region that ran at my local track required the BK bar, whether a hardtop was installed or not. Then, other clubs don't even care about the "brookstick" test.

In the end, its your head and neck that will take the beating should something bad happen. How much is that worth to you? I found a used BK bar for about $350 and didn't look back, since that met a "minimum" for both the clubs and tracks I wanted to run at and was much cheaper than a Hardtop and frankly, I didn't view a hardtop as a strong structural element in case of roll-over.