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Old 06-21-2013, 01:34 PM   #1
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While you can feel comfortable in the fact they are moving some issues forwards, and solar use currently is on the rise, you failed to consider the other factors that occur behind the scenes that make all of those conveniences you just mentioned happen. Your case for home charging is novel, but it fails the ho ho test when it comes to the cost structure. Your average American family does not and will not have the necessary funds to even come close to being able to enjoy any of the advantages "solar" can provide. Add to this a artificially supported industry (in this case solar) through loans and trade agreements that will be changing in the near term.

Yes you will have sales and yes the numbers may look impressive at first...but look at the market sector that is capitalizing on this and then couple that to the individuals who are buying. They are not your standard American families. With the Tesla it is no different than the exotic car market. Thriving...yes, sales through the roof...yes, do you see them in every driveway and every home? No, it is a niche market that is supported by a specific few and that is the case here as well.

As for my research, I work at one of the leading U.S. National Laboratories (for the last 20 years) which has as one facet of our research the US and Global energy sector. Additionally, we also have a human factors and social science section as well. These groups have and still are looking into many of the topics raised here. Now, it does no good to start spouting papers and research studies as people that have a passionate feeling for a topic tend not to want to hear scientific results. I stand by my comments...
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Old 06-21-2013, 02:15 PM   #2
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Whoa...scary.

No, I did not fail to consider the "Behind the scenes". "Behind the Scenes, the Government offers a 7500 tax credit for those who buy a full ev car, and they are subsidizing the charging stations coast to coast...you are 180 degrees wrong - they are not only NOT adding regulations, they are encouraging the switch. If you did some research first, you'd know that there are zero "behind the scenes factors" hindering ev cars, but rather, aiding them. Behind the scenes, more incentives are projected for electric cars by the government.

Portland a EV-charging haven with no excuse for range anxiety

Behind the scenes, electric companies support ev cars, and have the capacity to keep up with demand:

https://www.sce.com/wps/portal/home/residential/electric-cars/residential-rates/!ut/p/b1/hc5BC4IwHAXwTxR7buL0OEm2v5VmLrNdwkOEkNoh-vwt8FJQvduD34PHHGuZG7tHf-nu_TR211d30SmItTJUg_TeKlC6TAOzIaAIPTh6gC9R-Lc_MPdOYqszT1ZImi0XoZSfQO8kB-VNti7TgCPmM0g0MpOXHthKgESFolZKANEMfpwszDSc2W1o0dNC PQHsmxwA/dl4/d5/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/?from=/residential/rates/electric-vehicles.htm

You can drive up the entire east coast in a Tesla S TODAY...people do it everyday! Nothing, NOTHING stands in the way of additional charging stations...regulations "behind the scenes" pushed for expanding the charging network, and it continues to grow

https://www.sce.com/wps/portal/home/residential/electric-cars/residential-rates/!ut/p/b1/hc5BC4IwHAXwTxR7buL0OEm2v5VmLrNdwkOEkNoh-vwt8FJQvduD34PHHGuZG7tHf-nu_TR211d30SmItTJUg_TeKlC6TAOzIaAIPTh6gC9R-Lc_MPdOYqszT1ZImi0XoZSfQO8kB-VNti7TgCPmM0g0MpOXHthKgESFolZKANEMfpwszDSc2W1o0dNC PQHsmxwA/dl4/d5/L2dBISEvZ0FBIS9nQSEh/?from=/residential/rates/electric-vehicles.htm

All "those conveniences" have been here for the past 5 years. Right now, there are charging stations covering the entire east cost. Instead of your opinion, please, share some links with us that contain data from a university or agency. Nothing in your opinion jibs with any research, facts, data, polls, or "behind the scenes" factors...nothing.

Certainly, you are entitled to your opinion, but your opinion lacks any factual support, in fact, your opinion is so completely opposite of every piece of data that has been released.


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While you can feel comfortable in the fact they are moving some issues forwards, and solar use currently is on the rise, you failed to consider the other factors that occur behind the scenes that make all of those conveniences you just mentioned happen.
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