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BrokenLinkage 02-09-2015 12:47 PM

Fred I love your lights, its just that it is hard to walk away from a perfectly good and functional set of factory litronics. Had been thinking about trying yours anyway, just to change things up a bit, but would mean getting some "donor" headlights also.

Do I understand correctly that if I want something a bit custom wrt to the engraved script, I would need to order directly from you or your site prior to March 1? Anyway, thanks for your efforts and contributions.

mavis.d 02-09-2015 01:22 PM

I love mine think the're a great bit of kit


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Nine8Six 02-09-2015 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mavis.d (Post 435462)
I love mine think the're a great bit of kit

David, much appreciated for that mate :cool: Can't thank you enough

Your car front-end looks totally changed from that angle, nicely done.

Nine8Six 02-09-2015 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BrokenLinkage (Post 435458)
Fred I love your lights, its just that it is hard to walk away from a perfectly good and functional set of factory litronics. Had been thinking about trying yours anyway, just to change things up a bit, but would mean getting some "donor" headlights also.

Do I understand correctly that if I want something a bit custom wrt to the engraved script, I would need to order directly from you or your site prior to March 1? Anyway, thanks for your efforts and contributions.

Nah I'm sure it will be perfectly fine to request custom anything to Pelican after March 1st. May involve a few weeks waiting period and/or additional cost but I'm sure they'll be able to help you out. Let's see what their plan is, I'm not being told much atm... guess I'll find out at the same time as you guys (their stuff, nothing to do with me).

Firm on and agreed: I'm taking away the Add-to-Cart function off that GTP site on March 1st for the projector kits. They'll be "Exclusively available from Pelican only". Anyone wanting a kit will need to deal with them directly. Same goes for my mate here in Japan who enjoy reselling those, he'll need to import them. Same-game-for-everyone, no no undercut and all (do not contact me for a 'special' deal, won't work!).

PELICAN PARTS= Warranty, spare parts, xx days refund, top quality support, whatever their current policy is or will be, those kits will fall within those lines, etc. Cheaper shipping cost as well lol

Proper retail and customer support for you guys finally!

tommy583 02-09-2015 06:47 PM

Well Good for you my friend :). But I for one will miss the old way of ordering them thru PM's and hoping they will make it thru customs and such. Kinda made them feel more exclusive :cool:.

CraigM 02-14-2015 01:10 PM

Pulled the trigger - can't wait!
I'm so excited to be able to see where I'm going at night!

eicheldp 02-14-2015 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CraigM (Post 436258)
Pulled the trigger - can't wait!
I'm so excited to be able to see where I'm going at night!

CraigM,

You won't be disappointed.

Love the look of mine and they work great. :D

Nine8Six 02-15-2015 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CraigM (Post 436258)
Pulled the trigger - can't wait!
I'm so excited to be able to see where I'm going at night!

Hey Craig, welcome to the Brighter Club mate ;) and thx!

Hope you are patient cuz I'm about 1.5 weeks behind schedule. Still faster than the usual 4~6weeks loll so no worries they'll make their way to you beg of March latest mid. Can't rush those things sorry mate

You are not alone who've pull the trigger I tell ya.... that's what on the workbench atm (2 bezels are missing there... it's actually 11 kits). I'll be anodizing those this coming Wed and get them out by the coming weekend. I'll try my best to get yours in that batch Craig, fingers crossed

:cheers:

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Nine8Six 02-15-2015 04:44 AM

All takes time.... no no cheap cast stuff at this end

Literally everything is precision machined. Even the mounting screws... stylish little kit lolll

Those screws are batch CNC'ed and then snap-out from their aluminum billet just like those kid's plastic model parts. They are then faced (cleaned up) and threaded with a M24*1mm. Not exactly the cheapest bolts you can find ;)

Fancy shots... gives an idea of what's involved lol (i.e. crazy)


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herve_g 02-15-2015 06:33 AM

These are gorgeous pics Nine8Six.

I'm also getting ready to pull the trigger, I'm just not sure what to choose between the 3 designs...

BruceH 02-15-2015 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CraigM (Post 436258)
Pulled the trigger - can't wait!
I'm so excited to be able to see where I'm going at night!

You are going to love them Craig, now you just need the matching Skybreaker ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by herve_g (Post 436337)
These are gorgeous pics Nine8Six.

I'm also getting ready to pull the trigger, I'm just not sure what to choose between the 3 designs...

Yes, beautiful work Fred, I love the pictures:cheers:

I was out driving last night thinking about how well the headlights work, excellent upgrade for those on the fence.

CraigM 02-15-2015 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 436329)
Hey Craig, welcome to the Brighter Club mate ;) and thx!

Hope you are patient cuz I'm about 1.5 weeks behind schedule. Still faster than the usual 4~6weeks loll so no worries they'll make their way to you beg of March latest mid. Can't rush those things sorry

No worries, Fred! I have plenty of projects in the pipeline to occupy myself, including Particlewave's de-ambering of the headlights...nesting, I guess?

CraigM 02-18-2015 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 397599)
It is disturbing that Porsche does not have this headlight seal as a separate replaceable item. But as it turns out I know someone that makes aftermarket rubber seals ! He currently makes many Porsche seals for the older air cooled cars. I sent him an email asking if he would be interested in looking into making these and he said he is. But to do that he needs at the very least a small sample but preferably one complete seal. Does anyone have one they can give up for the R&D effort ? For my recently departed Porsche I had almost every seal he sells and they all fit and were of equal or better quality than OEM. I have no idea if this will come to fruition or not but it's worth a shot. I have nothing to gain from this just trying to help myself and the community. If anyone has a seal they can donate please send me a PM and we'll go from there. Should I post this anywhere else on this forum ?

Any progress on this? I don't think mine will survive being pulled and put back on.

CHRISP357 02-18-2015 03:58 PM

I want to go order a set of projectors but here are my questions:
What is the difference in the three models?
What is meant by beam distribution? (Rh or lh)
What bulb type do I need?
Thanks!

Fintro11 02-18-2015 06:49 PM

How do you know your wife loves you?


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BruceH 02-19-2015 06:52 AM

Looking nice Martin!

Fintro11 02-19-2015 08:15 AM

Thanks Bruce , Fred's charles and norms instructions help a lot. Removing the old adhesive is annoying!

particlewave 02-19-2015 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fintro11 (Post 436920)
Thanks Bruce , Fred's charles and norms instructions help a lot. Removing the old adhesive is annoying!

That's always been my least favorite part.

Looking great and thanks for the kudos! :D

swaff 02-19-2015 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by CraigM (Post 436802)
Any progress on this? I don't think mine will survive being pulled and put back on.

I have a pair of headlights where the little rubber seal that goes around the whole outer edge of the outside lens was really gummy and messed up. I found that you can use marine/automotive rubber strip like this to do a DIY gasket or O-ring cord. The marine stripping like below is a little easier DIY as you just stick it on, but o-ring cord will look a little more factory, you'll just need to get some rubber cement and glue it on. I hope this helps some of you with the gummy outer rings.

O-ring (this .210" works well) - JEGS Performance Products 21603, JEGS Nitrile O-Ring Cord | JEGS Performance Products

Marine/Automotive rubber strip -
MD Building Products 19/32 in. x 10 ft. EPDM Cellular Rubber Auto and Marine Weatherstrip-01033 - The Home Depot

Swaff

swaff 02-19-2015 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CraigM (Post 436802)
Any progress on this? I don't think mine will survive being pulled and put back on.

For the rubber seal that goes all the way around the headlight, I found 2 options that work pretty nice. This is for headlights with a gummy seal (seemed to be kind of permanently melted).

You can do a more factory look by ordering some o-ring cord and rubber cementing it around the edge. Amazon.com: JEGS Performance Products 21603 Nitrile O-Ring Cord: Automotive

Another option that works is to get marine/automotive rubber strip and stick that around the edges. You can cut it where it needs to be thinner. This is an easier DIY because you just stick it on. Just be sure to clean the surface very well before sticking it on so it will last you a long time. Depending on how you stick it on there, this can look pretty factory once the headlights are installed into their bays. MD Building Products 19/32 in. x 10 ft. EPDM Cellular Rubber Auto and Marine Weatherstrip-01033 - The Home Depot

I hope this helps some of you with the old and gummed-up seals!

Swaff

Nine8Six 02-19-2015 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fintro11 (Post 436850)
How do you know your wife loves you?

Nice work man. Too bad I can't find the comments you previously made RE how turned off you were with the idea of opening your Porsche headlights ;) Can't wait to see those installed!

Sorry for the late appearance Martin. Answered your Q on FB. I was caught up in what started to be a Chinese New Year friends' dinner yesterday evening lollll We got back home at 0530... by taxi :/ Home cooked Chinese food!!! dare any of you guys to find better... god that part was good (so grateful to the host)

Nine8Six 02-20-2015 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swaff (Post 436946)
For the rubber seal that goes all the way around the headlight, I found 2 options that work pretty nice. This is for headlights with a gummy seal (seemed to be kind of permanently melted).

You can do a more factory look by ordering some o-ring cord and rubber cementing it around the edge. Amazon.com: JEGS Performance Products 21603 Nitrile O-Ring Cord: Automotive

Another option that works is to get marine/automotive rubber strip and stick that around the edges. You can cut it where it needs to be thinner. This is an easier DIY because you just stick it on. Just be sure to clean the surface very well before sticking it on so it will last you a long time. Depending on how you stick it on there, this can look pretty factory once the headlights are installed into their bays. MD Building Products 19/32 in. x 10 ft. EPDM Cellular Rubber Auto and Marine Weatherstrip-01033 - The Home Depot

I hope this helps some of you with the old and gummed-up seals!

Swaff

I've actually went this road for a mate's car here and surprisingly it came out pretty good. Not the same item as yours but very similar. His were completely destroyed (had no choice). Seen his car about a month ago and the strips that we've fitted still looked as-day-one... that's more than a year after installation. Good tip indeed Swaff

Fintro11 02-20-2015 09:55 AM

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Fintro11 02-20-2015 09:56 AM

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CHRISP357 02-20-2015 06:13 PM

So can anyone tell me the difference in the three models of projectors?

amagalla 02-20-2015 06:30 PM

aesthetic design differences. That's it.

CHRISP357 02-20-2015 06:33 PM

Thanks Amagalla. Do you understand the different bulb options? I'd like to order a set tonight.

CraigM 02-20-2015 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swaff (Post 436946)
For the rubber seal that goes all the way around the headlight, I found 2 options that work pretty nice. This is for headlights with a gummy seal (seemed to be kind of permanently melted).

Swaff

Sweet! Thanks- I'm glad there's a viable option if mine don't make it. I pulled them to sand the amber off, and man, they are barely hanging in there.

tommy583 02-20-2015 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CHRISP357 (Post 437145)
Thanks Amagalla. Do you understand the different bulb options? I'd like to order a set tonight.

The different bulb options are color temps. 6000K is very white (almost blue). The lower the number from 6000K the more yellow the light will be. The other option will be the color of the angel eye lights.

CHRISP357 02-20-2015 08:13 PM

Tommy583 and Amagalla, thank you very much!

Fintro11 02-20-2015 08:52 PM

trying to get those white clips in is a royal pain in the ass!

Nine8Six 02-20-2015 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHRISP357 (Post 436818)
I want to go order a set of projectors but here are my questions:
What is the difference in the three models?
What is meant by beam distribution? (Rh or lh)
What bulb type do I need?
Thanks!

Yea Amagala is right, they are all identical function & performance wise. All the same sizes also i.e 90mm. Just design variations really.

Turismo Series: our classic and possibly the best looking of all. Copied from the Carrera GT so not much can go wrong with this design. If you aren't sure which model to pick, my recommendation is go with the Turismo.

Vivo Series: modern and tactical looking. Gives a very modern flare to the front-end of the car. They are compact and about 50grams lighter than the others. The Vivo were designed with 'compact' in mind so they can be also installed in other type of vehicles (BMW, Audi, VW, Corvette, Lotus, etc).

Luminoso Series: if you are after the true supercar headlight look these are for you. Pics don't give them justice but seen in real life those Luminoso are a blast to look at. Being the biggest kit all (perspective-wise) they also fill up the headlight quite nicely (my favorite, of course lol). The bezel is extremely hard to machine hence the slight price difference :/ Sorry about that guys

HID XENON Choice: The 4,3k is by "far" the best lamp and what most automakers installs in their headlights. Those 4,3k are the one that cuts through fog, rain and snow the best. The 6k are the best looking one (the one I use) but not as performing as the 4.3k for sure. 6k are perfect for a city car. If you live up in the foggy mountains and deal with weather then my advice is to go with the 4,3k. Then you have the strong purples and yellows but you won't get those from me sorry. They are highly illegal, useless, and just won't pass most country's annual inspection.

Angel eyes: Nothing to debate here, white angel eyes color is the classic, safest. Legal also. I haven't heard of anyone who've either failed annual inspection or been pulled over. Other colors are equally nice but mostly meant for show car purposes (illegal). The amber ones are so nice and soft nobody is going to bother you with these. Careful with RED angel eyes tho lol

Asymmetrical beam distribution: You need the RHT. The projector's low beam cutoff line for use in RHT countries projects most of the light forward-rightward; those for LHT countries (UK, SE Asia & AU) projects the light most of their light forward-leftward, thus illuminating driver's own side of the road and limiting glare to oncoming traffic.

Hope this helps you a tad deciding what you need. Get in touch is you have any questions or simply post here (I'll try not to miss it this time, apologies btw)

CHRISP357 02-21-2015 05:19 AM

Excellent! Ok, next questions. My car only comes out in perfect weather. What bulb would be best for higher speeds in dark twisty canyons at night where deer/antelope are a threat?
Also, I assume the price is for each projector, not a pair. Does the order contain everything I need to install? Any shopping around for other electrical items?
Sorry to keep bugging you.

clickman 02-21-2015 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by CHRISP357 (Post 437177)
I assume the price is for each projector, not a pair. Does the order contain everything I need to install? Any shopping around for other electrical items?

Amazingly, the price is for the whole kit, including both projectors, ballasts, etc. Check out the new instructions Fred had posted earlier. Will probably answer quite a few of your questions.

http://www.gtprojectors.com/downloads/Porsche_986_996_Headlight_Retrofit_Instructions.pd f

clickman 02-21-2015 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CHRISP357 (Post 437177)
What bulb would be best for higher speeds in dark twisty canyons at night where deer/antelope are a threat?

IIRC the "standard" colour temps are best for vision, i.e. 4300 - 5000 K. However, I suggest you save the higher risk driving for daylight hours...

Fintro11 02-21-2015 10:54 AM

I prefer the 6000k to match led :)

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Fintro11 02-21-2015 10:55 AM

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CHRISP357 02-21-2015 05:42 PM

Are angel eyes only visible when operating as running lights? If I never drive in that mode could I go with red or would they be visible ticket getters even with headlights on?

Sorry. I scrolled back a bunch of pages and found my answer. Red it is!

Fintro11 02-21-2015 06:02 PM

They are on all the time ( wired to parking lights). You could wire them to the fogs? Check with Fred


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