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KevinH1990 01-02-2015 12:04 PM

I said I didn't know much about the later 996 headlights - I guess I proved my point.

Car Camera Rig 01-02-2015 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinH1990 (Post 430439)
I said I didn't know much about the later 996 headlights - I guess I proved my point.

omg over 2800 bucks for that light in that ebay link.....

Car Camera Rig 01-02-2015 12:10 PM

i posted a couple of replies but they apparently need moderating???

Fintro11 01-09-2015 11:31 PM

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1420878666.jpg

The Before Picture!

particlewave 01-12-2015 12:54 PM

First fully functional Litronic install :cool:

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...70F53F895F.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...C82EAD319C.jpg

I'll see if the owner minds if I post some pictures of them on his car ;)

Fintro11 01-12-2015 01:00 PM

Hey particle wave, I sent you a pm. Would you be interested in installing projectors for a guy?

Coaster 01-12-2015 03:33 PM

That's awesome particlewave!

KevinH1990 01-12-2015 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 431597)
First fully functional Litronic install :cool:

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...70F53F895F.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...C82EAD319C.jpg

I'll see if the owner minds if I post some pictures of them on his car ;)

Not just "cool", but extremely cool. When you say fully functional do you mean:

1. The low beams rotate up when you turn on the high beams like the retrofit kit
2. The low beams self-level to compensate for the up and down motions of the car like the factory-option system
3. A combination of 1 and 2
4. Something else

I just managed to track down a wiring harness and controller to complete the installation of my litronics. I paid about $175 and all I'm going to get is the headlight rotation in the retrofit. I'm going to be upset with myself if you figured out how to mimic the OEM operation.

Anyway, good job. By the way, have you figured out a way to mimic the polished reflector at the bottom of the OEM litronic? (I'm not sure how well it shows up in these photos.) I assume it plays some role in directing or focusing the light.
http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1421115046.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1421115253.jpg

particlewave 01-12-2015 06:31 PM

Kevin,

1) No. High beam rotation has been disabled because he now has true bi-xenon HIDs.
2) Yes, the projector rotates with suspension load (both high and low beams).

I'm not sure what part you are referring to...?
Do you mean the silver bit ahead of the reflector and under the inner plastic shroud? If so, it is a separate removable plastic piece (interchangeable)

Coaster 01-13-2015 08:52 AM

Are these the current projectors retrofitted? I saw Fred was working on a litronics adapter.

I have my projectors (and windscreen) on order, would you be able to fit those into my existing Lits? What is the adapter for then? Apologizes if I am confused.

particlewave 01-14-2015 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coaster (Post 431678)
Are these the current projectors retrofitted? I saw Fred was working on a litronics adapter.

Yes, Turismo.

Quote:

I have my projectors (and windscreen) on order, would you be able to fit those into my existing Lits? What is the adapter for then? Apologizes if I am confused.
These were a one-off for me. Fred may be working on a Lit kit, but this had nothing to do with that.

I cheated. I used halogen reflectors with the projectors installed as usual and fitted them to the Litronic reflector mounts.
It worked out just fine, but cost an extra $150 to source the OEM halogen reflectors from a dismantler.

KevinH1990 01-14-2015 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by particlewave (Post 431637)
Kevin,

1) No. High beam rotation has been disabled because he now has true bi-xenon HIDs.
2) Yes, the projector rotates with suspension load (both high and low beams).

If I am not asking for proprietary information, how is your set up sensing the pitch of the car and feeding the information to the motor in the headlight? Would it be possible to add components to my system to accomplish this?

As you may recall, I cobbled together a pair of litronic headlights from 3 damaged ones. I'm about to add the headlight rotation control as described in this TSB: http://www.skylersrants.com/Porsche/Litronics/Instructions/Litronic11-02.pdf
and this article: Installing Litronic Headlights

I'd really like to make the system work like the factory automatic headlight beam adjustment system. It sounds like you may have cracked the code.

I'd appreciate any tips you would be willing to share. I have the the wiring harness (Porsche part number 996-612-988-00) and the headlight control unit (Porsche part number 000-044-900-38) needed for the low beam rotation.

I also have some leftover litronic parts if you want to swap your expertise for some parts. My parts are listed in this ad: http://986forum.com/forums/boxster-parts-sale-wanted/55179-litronic-headlight-parts-drivers-side.html

Nine8Six 01-14-2015 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinH1990 (Post 431848)
If I am not asking for proprietary information, how is your set up sensing the pitch of the car and feeding the information to the motor in the headlight? Would it be possible to add components to my system to accomplish this?

Yes, Charles and I have many-many-many components. Small, big, gears, shafts, bearing systems, servos, even micro steppers motors. Sensors; all kinds of mate lol from thermal, light intensity sensor, accident prevention systems using IR, down to military FLIR features. What you require exactly? Operations/tasks can be scheduled, automated or real-time vs environment factors interacting with some of the finest micro computing available today (Chips and datasheets from Taiwan, promise lol)

Prototype with triple-laser sensor capability (100m), algorithm set on this triangulation output to provide auto adjusting mechanism to ur lities - special price for you! Please donate your litmoritzic headlights for the research and dev immediately. Charles will follow-up with shipping addy. Thank you

;)

particlewave 01-14-2015 07:33 PM

Kevin,

He has OEM Lits, so stock level sensors and control module are used.

Nine8Six 01-14-2015 08:16 PM

Charles I think you could offer some friendly install discounts to the official members of this fine PCA chapter. What do you think?

Cool group... posting this on their FB today, unconditional. Whoever knows them or have direct link with that special person, the one who've posted this, please thank him/her on my behalf! I'll send them a note for sure

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01/pca1421298541.jpg

Source: https://www.facebook.com/cbrpca

Fintro11 01-14-2015 10:15 PM

awesome! I have shared the link on the Boxster Tech Facebook page the PNWR page and I will be sharing on our regions page :D

We need to save the people from the Yellow Cancer of the OEM Halogen headlights :D haha

Nine8Six 01-14-2015 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fintro11 (Post 431879)
awesome! I have shared the link on the Boxster Tech Facebook page the PNWR page and I will be sharing on our regions page :D

We need to save the people from the Yellow Cancer of the OEM Halogen headlights :D haha

Ah - so its YOU. So much effort for keeping a secret limited edition product within a small community LOL (not complaining, THANKS Martin!)

I've actually notice some pretty usual activity on the GTP facebook page just a few days ago and was wondering what on earth was happening. That FB page was registered but left there nearly dead ever since (been busy). That explains everything now...

Kept receiving FB activity email reports, everyday.... and only a few days ago I've uploaded a few visuals thinking okay, let them see the kits... to find out that a day or two after it all went fb buzz electric, overnight shares, likes, 220+ people talking about this..... ouch

I'll try my very best to keep this FB page LIVE and updated. Just for you Martin!

ps. if this ever goes viral and I need to quit my day job to manufacture those kits I relocate and go work from BC, Canada. Guess who is going to help me out ;)

Fintro11 01-15-2015 07:52 AM

Haha I take no credit for the costal bend fb page but, anywhere I see someone with a boxster I try to post the info.

The biggest question that gets asked is about install method

Do you have a fb page for the projectors?


Haha I guess I would eh

Nine8Six 01-15-2015 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fintro11 (Post 431906)
Haha I take no credit for the costal bend fb page but, anywhere I see someone with a boxster I try to post the info.

The biggest question that gets asked is about install method

Do you have a fb page for the projectors?

Haha I guess I would eh

Well that unusual traffic increase and enquiries started about the same time you were posting on FB. Can't hurt, and again, thanks! IT's YOU lollll

A lot of ppl is also asking me the same 'install' question, and I refer them to Charles lol Thing is, there are 10 different ways to DIY those headlights. Recommending a (one) method to someone who (most likely) is far more advanced skill-wise than I am, could become quite embarrassing. Not to mention my elegant Frenchglish writing skills :/

I'll see if I can "video" the whole process - from heating/opening the headlight, enlarging the socket hole from 21 up to 23mm, fitting/aiming the bi-xenon, down to the connectivity of the ballast on the existing headlight circuit. I'll make it as simple as possible (simplicity rules!). It's really not as complicated as some may believe.

I'll go make a fool of myself and video that soon (aiming at Feb). Again, just for you Martin ;)

https://www.facebook.com/pages/GT-Projectors/1453271388262466

clickman 01-16-2015 09:44 AM

Hey Fred, you may recall I had told you that I was working on a DIY instruction for the kit, assembled from you, Charles and others on the forum. I have something cobbled together now, but I want you and Charles to look at it first. PM coming.

Nine8Six 01-16-2015 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickman (Post 432098)
Hey Fred, you may recall I had told you that I was working on a DIY instruction for the kit, assembled from you, Charles and others on the forum. I have something cobbled together now, but I want you and Charles to look at it first. PM coming.

FULL refund on your kit + shipping and tons of virtual kisses coming your way - if it passes Charles' QC of course!

Sure those of us who've been wanting to join the "Exterminate-the-Halogen Secret Society" will much appreciate this Norm.

Shoot :cheers: (PM replied)

Nine8Six 01-16-2015 03:27 PM

A Facebook review from those who runs any of those 3 kits would equally be appreciated!

E.g. How they install, lighting system improvement, Charles' DIY services, how handsome he is, etc etc, all good point to mention.

If you have a few minutes, it would help a lot at this end. Trying to get this Facebook social/media/reach thing kick started, and I don't know how lollll I could do with some you guys' help any day

https://www.facebook.com/GTProjectors
> Click on REVIEW, and write as many bad things as you want lol

Nine8Six 01-19-2015 09:17 PM

edit: hmmmm lollll ignore this post

will update with better shots b4 the weekend

Nine8Six 01-20-2015 04:44 PM

by Norm (member Clickman) & Charles (member Particlewave)

Excellent News

We now have a complete DIY Installation Manual for those who wish to upgrade their Porsche Boxster (986) or Porsche 911 (996) old halogen headlights with a true bi-xenon & HID lighting system. The manual is completed with 29 pages, 27 HD pics and one video.

Can't thank Norm and Charles enough for helping me out for putting this together. And it's in English! Thank you :)

Download [3MB]:
http://www.gtprojectors.com/downloads/Porsche_986_996_Headlight_Retrofit_Instructions.pd f


http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01/01111421804577.jpg

^ The Ultimate Exterminate the Halogen Manual!

itsnotanova 01-22-2015 01:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mayerstrat (Post 422112)

Has anyone gone with the black projectors and the painted inside? If so, pics

particlewave 01-22-2015 01:41 PM

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...E9E8293A14.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...215222_HDR.jpg

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...405_154437.jpg

clickman 01-22-2015 05:09 PM

I love it

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1421978964.jpg

particlewave 01-22-2015 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickman (Post 432854)

Hehe...maybe I should have some small headlight decals made :D

http://i875.photobucket.com/albums/a...F7E0A2D8A8.jpg

clickman 01-24-2015 06:21 AM

Charles, you must be able to crack those headlights open in your sleep after doing that many of them.

Nine8Six 02-07-2015 01:04 AM

Vivo in gunmetal with amber angel eyes
 
Martin - this crazy Luminoso kit is 'finally' on its way to Vancouver mate. Fingers crossed buddy and sincere apologies for the delay.

Go Go Supercar stuff man, think you'll like those ;)

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1423303323.jpg


And those Vivo are quite special. Why? because of the amber lighting. Not sure what happened to me recently but I am all going amber gaga for some reason. You have to admit this is quite unique.

Huge thanks to William (Strachan)!

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1423303374.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1423303391.jpg

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1423303407.jpg

Nine8Six 02-07-2015 01:06 AM

^

http://www.gtprojectors.com/media/wy...anner_vivo.jpg

strachan 02-07-2015 03:38 PM

Looks better than I thought it was going too. Great work Fred!

PS ..... He amber idea stemmed from you when we discussed amber turn signals. I just applied it to the lights and calipers. :)

Pics when all is installed!

Fintro11 02-07-2015 03:51 PM

Thanks Fred they look amazing!

clickman 02-08-2015 08:05 AM

Fred, what's the total number of units shipped so far?

Nine8Six 02-08-2015 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickman (Post 435252)
Fred, what's the total number of units shipped so far?

Not many, not enough, too little. I am getting closer to call it a FAIL in my mission to exterminate the old, ineffective, hot and massive current demanding bulbs (aka T. Edison halogen).

Maybe we don't sell those kits expansive enough?! The old 1994 era optics Litroblitz headlights sells better still today at $2,000 a pair

A reputable and USA based marketing guru once advise me to raise the price from that silly $300 up to $1500. The more expansive it is = the better (typical consumers said lol). He was so correct, I didn't listen

Fintro11 02-08-2015 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nine8Six (Post 435324)
Not many, not enough, too little. I am getting closer to call it a FAIL in my mission to exterminate the old, ineffective, hot and massive current demanding bulbs (aka T. Edison halogen).

Maybe we don't sell those kits expansive enough?! The old 1994 era optics Litroblitz headlights sells better still today at $2,000 a pair

A reputable and USA based marketing guru once advise me to raise the price from that silly $300 up to $1500. The more expansive it is = the better (typical consumers said lol). He was so correct, I didn't listen



I think most people are too afraid to open up their headlights ;)

clickman 02-08-2015 09:45 PM

I hope it's not going to turn into the famous artist thing, where it's only appreciated once it's gone. That would be a massive shame. After 8 years of ownership, and many mods, your headlights are at the top of my list for bang for the buck. You should be proud. Keep your head up, and let's forge ahead to exterminate the halogens!!

clickman 02-08-2015 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fintro11 (Post 435349)
I think most people are too afraid to open up their headlights ;)

We have Charles! Fred, maybe your gtprojectors website needs to make it patently obvious to those on the fence that there's an installer out there that can do the job for those that don't want to do it themselves!

Nine8Six 02-09-2015 01:33 AM

Anouncement - Pelican Parts to take over GTP on 1st March 2015
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Fintro11 (Post 435349)
I think most people are too afraid to open up their headlights ;)

I think it has more to do with being LAZY. I struggle more with opening my morning peanut butter jar than opening a old & dry Porsche headlight. You'll see....

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickman (Post 435352)
I hope it's not going to turn into the famous artist thing, where it's only appreciated once it's gone. That would be a massive shame. After 8 years of ownership, and many mods, your headlights are at the top of my list for bang for the buck. You should be proud. Keep your head up, and let's forge ahead to exterminate the halogens!!

Bang for the buck that is for sure! I am not giving up too soon no worries - keep reading ;)

GTProjectors' future is to compete with the common retrofit "plastic" bezel kits you find everywhere on eBay and those of reputable retrofitters here and there. I am not going to say anything bad about other's products (I never do) however, I'll say this: For about the same price of a plastic retrofit kit, GTProjectors provides you with stylish precision machined parts; they are robust, durable, anodized and most - personalized with laser scripts. I.e. a game changer. Adding to this, BI-XENON and I am not too shy to say publically that they are bundled with the very best universal OPTIC available today. The Ultimate ver. pattern/trademarked by AES co.

In a few words, the GTProjectors are The Best-in-The-World at the moment (hmmm where did I heard that before lol)

It's just a matter of time before ppl finds them and understand what they really are. It could go faster but unfortunately I do not have the do$h and the know-how it takes to carry out marketing campaigns and all that tralala involved (not exactly cheap). Can't even manage a silly FB page properly lollll

At this stage, I think it would be fair to everyone for me to announce that (finally) starting from 1st March 2015, PELICAN PARTS will have exclusivity and will be officially selling the GTP kits (surprise again, sorry). I was about to release this anytime soon anyway. Now these fine chaps at Pelican has the "know-how" and resources to bring this product to its next level (I quit lol). On my part, I'll be focusing on what I do best only which is making them and bringing innovation to the product line (mainly additional designs). Stay Tuned for the official release coming from Pelican.

Norm - you've asked how many I've sold. The answer is many (I've stop counting in mid-2014). The TURISMO has been the top seller by large numbers for 986s, 996s, GT2s & 3s. They've been well received and appreciated from everywhere (USA, CA, France, Spain, Japan, China, Thailand, man... even as far as Dubai and Qatar). They are also being installed on other sport cars (Lotus Elise, VW GTI, BMW) and on 3 supercars (2 Lambo & 1 Ferrari), forgot what other cars but there are some....

And only recently on Corvettes!

http://986forum.com/forums/uploads01...1423477917.jpg

Fintro11 02-09-2015 10:35 AM

I had three guys interested here, they said they are going to wait until I open up the headlight ;) chickens I tell ya. I work on overhead cranes for a living some cost over a million and most will cause death if they fail. If I can fix those a silly little porsche headlight is child's play ;) as I always say if all else fails hit it with a hammer that will fix it ;)


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