Porsche Headlight Retrofit [from CAD, prototyping to finish)

[alanqning]

I like those lower lights. Gotta find me a kit for that too.

[Nine8Six]

Originally Posted by alanqning

I like those lower lights. Gotta find me a kit for that too.

You and I both. I also love those lower led style but a lot of it is also coming from the front bumper Lee has I think. Never seen this bumper/grill before now in all honesty. Not bad at all

[Nine8Six]

Just sharing here what I found on another forum. Simple retrofit from a poor halogen to a sharp HID night set-up. No black paint!

Esthetically I think the results are equally great. The owner of this P car left the inside of the headlight factory-color, install projectors and tinted the amber flashers with 3M's 35% window paper. Simple but very nice.









^ Sharp beam, clean, stylish, what else... forgot

[ohhh my]

Can someone post up a picture of the HID's on at night against a wall? I feel as though the way the curvature of our headlights is shaped, takes away some of the sharpness of these projectors versus a headlight housing on a bmw where it's lens which is nearly parallel to the front of the projector. Our lens have a sharp angle and the light has to shine through an angled lens. which is close to 45 degrees.

[Nine8Six]

Originally Posted by ohhh my

Can someone post up a picture of the HID's on at night against a wall? I feel as though the way the curvature of our headlights is shaped, takes away some of the sharpness of these projectors versus a headlight housing on a bmw where it's lens which is nearly parallel to the front of the projector. Our lens have a sharp angle and the light has to shine through an angled lens. which is close to 45 degrees.

Mate, you do realize that our Porsche car headlight's lenses are made of some of the best polycarbonate you can find/make today right? They wouldn't last more than a decade on public roads if they were made of substandard poly resin. The elliptical phases aren't affected by the material Porsche uses I reassure you. You can quickly do a test at home if you want; e.g. just aim a hand-held laser beam through the lens. The laser beam will remain straight and the diameter of that laser beam will remain the same (in & out).

Regardless, you are lucky it is our monthly Porsche out day tomorrow for us here in Shanghai. I'll see if I can find you a wall somewhere.

[EDIT: irrelevant details removed]

[ohhh my]

I don't disagree/question you at all with regards to the material of the lens. Just a personal curiosity about the effects of the angled lens. Yes pointing a laser through the lens perfectly perpendicular should provide nearly a perfect beam on the other side. But what if you shined the laser at a 45 or less degree angle, is the beam the still the same? Just a question of optics.

The reason why I asked for pictures is because I'm a light enthusiast and I like good optics, I follow HIDplanet and that's one of the picture that's always included, a picture against the wall. Yes, your craftman is great and I can appreciate how it looks, but I also want to see how badass and great these perform too.

[Nine8Six]

Originally Posted by ohhh my

I don't disagree/question you at all with regards to the material of the lens. Just a personal curiosity about the effects of the angled lens. Yes pointing a laser through the lens perfectly perpendicular should provide nearly a perfect beam on the other side. But what if you shined the laser at a 45 or less degree angle, is the beam the still the same? Just a question of optics.

The reason why I asked for pictures is because I'm a light enthusiast and I like good optics, I follow HIDplanet and that's one of the picture that's always included, a picture against the wall. Yes, your craftman is great and I can appreciate how it looks, but I also want to see how badass and great these perform too.

RE light enthusiast, I see. HIDplanet have been a tremendous resource for my research, there are 2-3 guys (regulars) on that forum that knows their stuff quite impressively well. I am actually very grateful to one of them for having shared so much and helped me out in my quest of the unknown (in my case, as a new light enthusiast!).

My secret, Ohhh my:

Although those MH1 projectors are fine, they are not a "precision manufactured" item. The cheap injection molded plastic part used to support the lens often is OFF by millimeters (mind you, most is caused by sloppy assembly as well). Tabs holding the lens securely also tend to be left with flash around them shifting the angle on the lens in some case. It still makes it a "so-so" and affordable product and still working fine you'll say. However the cutoff line you will be getting is all based on luck... you may have a left side sharper than a right side, a shift of optics on the other, stuff like that. Read correct: you move the lens in-or-out by as small as 0.5mm and you screw up the focal point completely. And that is just NOT what real Porsche enthusiasts wants!

The CNC precision equipment I use here allows me to machine the parts to very high tolerance. So I can take this package, break it out, I can very accurately 'position' the lens relative to the elliptical bowl to 0.02mm tolerance. In fact the elliptical is absolutely great on this new 2014 projector model (brutal and sharp beam). In other words, I have the freedom and ability to "dial-in" a very precise optical and "find that exact focal sharpness" for each and single projector that I make.

The other secret is, I am able to reproduce nearly identical parts (again +/- 0.02mm tolerance). Making not only one of the best cutoff sharpness out there, but both Left & Right are identical. That is what I call Quality and the reason behind why I am not particularly shy to call this kit a "High Performance Bi-Xenon Projector retrofit kit for Porsche car".

Ohhh my, it's laser scanner effect-like when you (bumpy) drive this thing in the dark, actually very addictive... feels clean and precise! Nothing to compare with litronic or those frosted bimmer hids [no additional comments here].

Not bad for a noob light enthusiast huh?

[ohhh my]

Originally Posted by Nine8Six

RE light enthusiast, I see. HIDplanet have been a tremendous resource for my research, there are 2-3 guys (regulars) on that forum that knows their stuff quite impressively well. I am actually very grateful to one of them for having shared so much and helped me out in my quest of the unknown (in my case, as a new light enthusiast!).

My secret, Ohhh my:

Although those MH1 projectors are fine, they are not a "precision manufactured" item. The cheap injection molded plastic part used to support the lens often is OFF by millimeters (mind you, most is caused by sloppy assembly as well). Tabs holding the lens securely also tend to be left with flash around them shifting the angle on the lens in some case. It still makes it a "so-so" and affordable product and still working fine you'll say. However the cutoff line you will be getting is all based on luck... you may have a left side sharper than a right side, a shift of optics on the other, stuff like that. Read correct: you move the lens in-or-out by as small as 0.5mm and you screw up the focal point completely. And that is just NOT what real Porsche enthusiasts wants!

The CNC precision equipment I use here allows me to machine the parts to very high tolerance. So I can take this package, break it out, I can very accurately 'position' the lens relative to the elliptical bowl to 0.02mm tolerance. In fact the elliptical is absolutely great on this new 2014 projector model (brutal and sharp beam). In other words, I have the freedom and ability to "dial-in" a very precise optical and "find that exact focal sharpness" for each and single projector that I make.

The other secret is, I am able to reproduce nearly identical parts (again +/- 0.02mm tolerance). Making not only one of the best cutoff sharpness out there, but both Left & Right are identical. That is what I call Quality and the reason behind why I am not particularly shy to call this kit a "High Performance Bi-Xenon Projector retrofit kit for Porsche car".

Ohhh my, it's laser scanner effect-like when you (bumpy) drive this thing in the dark, actually very addictive... feels clean and precise! Nothing to compare with litronic or those frosted bimmer hids [no additional comments here].

Not bad for a noob light enthusiast huh?

I believe you misunderstood my previous comment... But in reply to your post anyways.. As you may know, i'm soon going to be ordering a kit from you. I've been following this thread since the beginning and one of the main reasons why i'm selling my factory installed litronics is because of your detail to precision.

My comment above is referring to the angle of the HID light and shining through the polycarbonate headlight lens at an angle. In your example of shining laser through the polycarbonate lens, i'm assuming you used a laser that was shined perpendicular to the lens creating a clean beam on the other side. I asked if holding the laser beam at an angle less than 45 degree would still produce as sharp of a laser point on the other side.

[Nine8Six]

Originally Posted by ohhh my

I believe you misunderstood my previous comment... But in reply to your post anyways.. As you may know, i'm soon going to be ordering a kit from you. I've been following this thread since the beginning and one of the main reasons why i'm selling my factory installed litronics is because of your detail to precision.

My comment above is referring to the angle of the HID light and shining through the polycarbonate headlight lens at an angle. In your example of shining laser through the polycarbonate lens, i'm assuming you used a laser that was shined perpendicular to the lens creating a clean beam on the other side. I asked if holding the laser beam at an angle less than 45 degree would still produce as sharp of a laser point on the other side.

Nah, even if you shine it at 89 degree angle to the lens it will go straight in. The poly is amazingly well vacuum i.e. no (read ZERO) microscopic air bubbles.... unlike in cheap Made in Asia polycarbonates.

Seems to be the real deal. I bet the team at Porsche have already considered this optical angle when selecting/manufacturing their headlight material (all porsche cars have inclined lenses). actually, all other sport & super car manufacturers as well.

No sweat there! It shines nicely

[Nine8Six]

Originally Posted by ohhh my

I believe you misunderstood my previous comment...

No I didn't. You want to know how bad ass they perform, well you'd possibly be more convinced by knowing exactly How and Why they are made as such instead of me throwing out some boring (night quality) cutoff pictures mate.

I'm very good at Photoshop btw

[Nine8Six]

It's weekend out for the Porsche here!!!

Had to park 1 min at the corner of Yan'an and Nanbei elevated roads for a quick photo snap. Please don't blame me for loving that car so much (and of course those projectors)... the Boxster only comes out of its garage once a month.

986 Disco anyone?!











The 986 is parked somewhere under there. This city is mental on Saturday night (blacklights ON).

[BruceH]

Great looking pictures! Once a month?

[Nine8Six]

Originally Posted by BruceH

Once a month?

Sadly :/ I also have a very nice VW Passat

My favorite, a nice plastic Public Transport card!

[Jamesp]

Originally Posted by Nine8Six

Sadly :/ I also have a very nice VW Passat

My favorite, a nice plastic Public Transport card!

Are the roads outside the city of high enough quality to run your Boxter? Seems like either they would be there new and awesome, or not at all. And you car rocks, kind of goes with the city. Love your style.

[Nine8Six]

Originally Posted by Jamesp

Are the roads outside the city of high enough quality to run your Boxter? Seems like either they would be there new and awesome, or not at all. And you car rocks, kind of goes with the city. Love your style.

Hey James. Nah the roads in China are some of the best in the world. 50% of them are <10years old. Sure some are much old however extremely well maintained. Mind you, a Shanghai private car plate (required for locals, and foreigners as well of course) cost US$13,492 (or CNY85,000). With 25million residents, many of those owning cars, believe when I say the dept of transport has a great financial support and deliver quite well in that respect.

The inter-provincial roads/freeways being by far the best and coolest (not a single 1" wide crack in those). They use a sort of high abrasive asphalt -mix- with concrete. Those are the ones that my Boxster sees the most frequently really (monthly!).



^ We also have the ring in SH! Can't see clearly but there are 3 levels on that ring. This is the first time my little Porsche have seen human vomiting.... I was ramping down at over 150kmph (the guy who barf'ed in my car is not my friend anymore). I normally (rarely) never exceed legal speed limits... talking karma huh

[alanqning]

I need to visit Shanghai sometime soon, this looks awesome. I'll try and get in contact with you if I do.

Originally Posted by Nine8Six

Hey James. Nah the roads in China are some of the best in the world. 50% of them are <10years old. Sure some are much old however extremely well maintained. Mind you, a Shanghai private car plate (required for locals, and foreigners as well of course) cost US$13,492 (or CNY85,000). With 25million residents, many of those owning cars, believe when I say the dept of transport has a great financial support and deliver quite well in that respect.

The inter-provincial roads/freeways being by far the best and coolest (not a single 1" wide crack in those). They use a sort of high abrasive asphalt -mix- with concrete. Those are the ones that my Boxster sees the most frequently really (monthly!).



^ We also have the ring in SH! Can't see clearly but there are 3 levels on that ring. This is the first time my little Porsche have seen human vomiting.... I was ramping down at over 150kmph (the guy who barf'ed in my car is not my friend anymore). I normally (rarely) never exceed legal speed limits... talking karma huh

[BruceH]

Originally Posted by Nine8Six

Sadly :/ I also have a very nice VW Passat

My favorite, a nice plastic Public Transport card!

Ok, now I understand.

[Leebherron]

Awesome city pics Fred. Love it. Yup plastic diped headlight rims. If I don't want I just peel it off ! Lee

[Nine8Six]

I'd quickly remove that plasti-dip and paint them permanently if I were Lee. Does look bad a**

[Kenny Boxster]

Wow, Shanghai has changed a lot since I last went. Need to go visit soon!