Dual DIN 7" Touch screen radio install

[Gforrest2]

So I'm sold too. Amp crapped out on me a couple of months ago and have been debating what to do. I originally thought about one of these but then changed my mind after reading the poor reviews, i.e. lag etc., but now I see that's not the case. Hats off to Ray for taking the plunge for the rest of us. For the last month, I've been bidding on the Pioneer unit on Ebay, but $400 is my limit and they usually go for more. Went to buy a cheap JVC HU at Frys last week but they were out of stock. Then stumbled on this thread - lucky me.

So my question is, there are several sellers selling this unit. They look identical. The OP's unit is one of the most expensive. If you're going to go cheap, you might as well go cheap. I'm getting this one: GPS Navi with 7" Motorized Car Stereo DVD CD Player PIP Ipod Bluetooth+Camera | eBay. $220 shipped from CA and it includes the camera. Another seller has it for $209 shipped w/o the camera.

I'd be interested in seeing how Ray get's his mounted, and/or will the Ebay kit work this unit?

For all you others taking the plunge - anybody have a Becker BE6600 amp they want to part with?

[particlewave]

Ah, I missed that. Not a big deal at all.
Actually, a small 12v digital converter, removed from the plastic housing, is quite small, so I'll probably do something like that eventually, but no rush. I really want the gps function as my phone is small and Google Navigator has been horrid lately.

Thanks for the write up and videos!

[SoK]

i hate wiring electrical for stereo's, sounds a bit more complicated than I was anticipating. might have to just buy the unit, the install kit and take it somewhere to have them mess with running backup camera wires, speakers, etc.

unless we get a nice, detailed, picture-oriented write up

anyone going to tak the plunge and buy the unit and ebay install kit to see if they work together?

[particlewave]

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[particlewave]

WOW!!!

Just checked the DD install kit link...$165!?!
They must have some good crack there! That is beyond ridiculous for a couple of plastic bits and a cage. They can keep the wiring harnes as mine was already removed for an aftermarket install when I bought the car.

I'll have to do some shopping around because there is no way I would pay nearly that much...not even half that amount for what I need(cage, plastic surrounds). Absolutely outrageous...

[Gforrest2]

Originally Posted by particlewave

WOW!!!

Just checked the DD install kit link...$165!?!
They must have some good crack there! That is beyond ridiculous for a couple of plastic bits and a cage. They can keep the wiring harnes as mine was already removed for an aftermarket install when I bought the car.

I'll have to do some shopping around because there is no way I would pay nearly that much...not even half that amount for what I need(cage, plastic surrounds). Absolutely outrageous...

Like I said before, I've done a lot of research on the double din installation, including following the thread where this kit was developed. It was pretty much a one-of that was fabricated by the brother or brother-in-law of a forum member. Other members asked if they could get one and fast forward - the kit was developed. But not before a lot of design work, tooling, trial and error, improvements, etc., So yes, it seems like a lot of money, but I don't see any other kits out there for less. Plus it's a very limited market. But that said, I'm not getting one either. The only part I'd be interested in is the trim piece. The climate control trim piece can be had from Porsche.

[particlewave]

Seems like that is the cheapest around. Thieves! Maybe I won't do this install after all.
I mean, I can afford it, but I would feel as though someone were stealing from me.

Going to have to really think this over...Thats almost as much as the darn stereo!
Just as an example; I looked up a DD install kit for my Dodge...$15.95.
Attach the Porsche name to it and you can jack up the price 10x...ridiculous.

[Crono0001]

So without the install kit, you won't have that little plastic surrounding around your screen?

[particlewave]

Thats right...I may just make my own. Sheesh!

[Crono0001]

On the videos, it seems like the unit fits in pretty flush, save that opening up top. Are you sure we even need an install kit?

[jb92563]

Originally Posted by Crono0001

On the videos, it seems like the unit fits in pretty flush, save that opening up top. Are you sure we even need an install kit?

When I put the plastic bezel on that the unit comes with there is maybe 1/16" on either side which is visually nothing.

However the top and potentially bottom will need something to cover it.

Thats where my 1/8" thick aluminum aircraft style surround will go and any plastic
will mount on that face.

The stereo will sit on an aluminum shelf inside, attached to the front plate.

The front Plate will have some counter sunk depressions for screws and the screws will be hidden by the plastic glued or velcro'd on top.

I departed from the typical Auto tray idea since there does not seem to be any good attach points.

However the upper Din Slot holes are intact and will make a good attach point and at the bottom the face can key in with the existing plastic and metal there without screws.

I thought I read about another install that used a $25 DD install kit for another car type successfully. Need to do some googling.

[particlewave]

I wonder if they would sell just the trim and cage for any less...?
I may message them and see what they say, but I doubt it.

I'll probably just buy it as is, but I need to get my whining and complaining out of the way first.

I'm also toying with the idea of making my own out of a hard wood, either stained or painted. Not sure yet, but I'd still need some kind of cage, so the kit may be less hassle.

[MConte05]

Considering still saving over $400, I'd prolly still just go with the install kit just for convenience. Meh.

[jb92563]

Originally Posted by MConte05

Considering still saving over $400, I'd prolly still just go with the install kit just for convenience. Meh.

If you have the same size opening or bigger that the $165 kit is made for.

This one is likely different than the Pioneer or Kenwood that the kit is made for.

Give it a try and let us know. I cant find dimensions for that kit's plastic part.

I may get to the aircraft style tray this weekend and see what I can come up with.

If I develop a nice solution I'll post the details here of course.

[particlewave]

I read on another forum that this one works, but it doesn't look right to me.

381323-03-1 Pioneer - Car Accessories - Car Entertainment

[SoK]

Definitely need to find an install kit, or at least a cage, that doesn't cost $150. All the kits I've used in the past were cheap.

[Nimbus117]

I bought the fitting kit, it was rubbish. In the end I bought the trim off a member called trieullionaire on RennTech.org for $50, I got a cage with the Pioneer stereo which the trim I bought fits exactly. There is a photo of my installation of the first page of this thread.

The wiring kit that came with the fitting kit was also rubbish, in the end I removed it and bought a new ISO plug and rewired and added the extra wires to the car loom which got rid of the adaptors & mass of wiring. If I want to upgrade in future, the car loom is now standard ISO so never need a wiring kit.

If anyone wants the wiring diagram for a 2003 car, just ask. By the way, you can pick up a 12v+ switched feed from the aircon controller.

[SoK]

Have a link to the iso plug that you used? Thx!

[Nimbus117]

Originally Posted by SoK

Have a link to the iso plug that you used? Thx!

Have a look at this item on ebay 110909740111 this is from the UK though

I cant remember which side you need but you get the plug and the socket on this sale.

[politby]

Originally Posted by Nimbus117

I bought the fitting kit, it was rubbish. In the end I bought the trim off a member called trieullionaire on RennTech.org for $50, I got a cage with the Pioneer stereo which the trim I bought fits exactly. There is a photo of my installation of the first page of this thread.

The wiring kit that came with the fitting kit was also rubbish, in the end I removed it and bought a new ISO plug and rewired and added the extra wires to the car loom which got rid of the adaptors & mass of wiring. If I want to upgrade in future, the car loom is now standard ISO so never need a wiring kit.

If anyone wants the wiring diagram for a 2003 car, just ask. By the way, you can pick up a 12v+ switched feed from the aircon controller.

I am just about to start a similar install in my '03, similar to yours.

I have a Pioneer SPH-DA100 waiting to be installed along with a Pioneer GM-D9500F amp. My car also has the cupholder above the a/c panel and I want to relocate the a/c controls to where the CD holders are.



The plan is to take out the CD holders, enlarge the cutout and place the A/C panel there so I can keep the red color bezel.

I have ordered the Connects2 double din kit off eBay. Is this the one you referred to as "rubbish?" They say it is for cars without the cup holder but I figured I can lose the cupholder if necessary.

I also have the Autoleads ISO bypass kit. I have yet to figure out how it routes the speaker connections - the wiring diagram you mention would be a great help.

Are all the speakers powered by the factory amp or is the CR23 head unit powering some of the channels? As I understand it all the speaker connections are present in the multi connector at the factory amp and the bypass harness will plug into the factory amp connector and allow the existing speaker wiring to connect to the replacement amp. But at the head unit end I do not know which speakers get connected to the head unit's amp ouputs. My amp does have the large black connector:



The way it looks on the Bose amp pinout, ALL speakers are connected to it. So if any of the speakers are powered by the factory head unit, there would just be a bypass through the amp. I hate this Bose stuff

My plan is to drive the dash and rear mindranges with the head unit's built in amp and use the new amp to power the door speakers and the sub. I will re wire the Bose "subwoofers" in series to get a 4 ohm load and also dampen the rear enclosure while I'm at it.

I also note that the Pio unit you have has the same front panel design as mine - i.e. the display is not flush with the surrounding black frame. How did you get it to sit flush with the dash - did you have to remove the plastic surrounding frame? Did you simply mount the unit deeper into the dash cavity?