06-09-2015, 12:30 PM
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Best brake pads for club racing?
I have been using Pagid (Blue) E2407 and E2406 140 10. Interested to see what others are using for club racing.
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06-09-2015, 12:33 PM
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Have got 1 track day at Laguna Seca, and one AX event done with EBC Blue Stuff pads. While they seem to be a VERY polarizing brand, but I have been happy with performance and like them a lot. Blows away stock as well as the Hawk HPS pads I had (terrible!).
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06-09-2015, 03:09 PM
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Raybestos ST-43
It's a full race pad with good modulation, high heat range, and lasts forever (20-30) track days. Porterfield will custom-cut a set for your car.
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06-09-2015, 04:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Topless
Raybestos ST-43
It's a full race pad with good modulation, high heat range, and lasts forever (20-30) track days. Porterfield will custom-cut a set for your car.
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I ran ST47's which have a slightly higher heat rating and are more of an endurance pad on my old S4 track car and loved em. I'm running Pagid Blacks on the Boxster because that is what the previous owner did and I've had good luck with them. So if it ain't broke.......
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06-09-2015, 08:22 PM
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Most of the Spec Boxster's that I know use Pagid Black. However, I use EBC Yellow race pads.
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06-12-2015, 08:52 AM
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i have major problems with brakes on my 2004 boxster s
im running pfc pads all around, new master cylinder, brake duct with fans, srf fluid, ss lines all around and the pedal keeps getting weak. im really tired of that problem
i need other pads solution!!!
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06-12-2015, 09:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paseb
i have major problems with brakes on my 2004 boxster s
im running pfc pads all around, new master cylinder, brake duct with fans, srf fluid, ss lines all around and the pedal keeps getting weak. im really tired of that problem
i need other pads solution!!!
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is that a pad issue or a heat issue - are you cooking fluid? if a heat issue, look to the gyrodisc floating rotors - not only are they floating (ie, lighter rotating mass) but they are bigger in diameter than oem while still working with oem calipers/pads (they come with a spacer for the calipers); bigger rotors = more cooling, and pushing the calipers out means more torque on the rotors = more braking.
have you removed the dust shields?
how about those titanium pad inserts to get some of the heat out?
twin turbo 6 piston front calipers? you can rebuild the whole front end (ie, such that you have tt wheel carriers that can fit them, + it widens your front track a bit) or you can get adaptors (ie, there's a guy in japan that makes them - can't recall the website but have posted it to this forum in the past - his adaptors also allow you the option to use cayenne 6 piston calipers which can be found a lot cheaper). if you are worried about the bigger front brakes upsetting bias, if I recall correctly you can increase rear braking by putting non-S front calipers on the back of your S - do a search on this - works with stock rotors.
edit - here it is ...
http://www.goingsuperfast.com/Porsche-996.html
Last edited by The Radium King; 06-12-2015 at 09:24 AM.
Reason: more info
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06-12-2015, 09:44 AM
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I am not having any problem in fact I have been using them for 2 years, many track days with good results. I was just asking to see what others were using. Thanks to everyone who gave a post!
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06-12-2015, 09:56 AM
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I think everyone I know in Spec Boxster out west is running Pagid, in some combination of Orange, Yellow, and Black. Each has slightly different bite and wear characteristics. I have used Orange almost exclusively, but recently have tried Yellow in front. The differences are minor to me. I think the Yellow last a bit longer and have a little less bite.
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06-13-2015, 02:42 PM
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Track rat
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We used Pagid Yellow/Black for one season but got some pad transfer that caused serious rotor judder at Buttonwillow. Maybe our fault by not getting enough cool down between sessions but we have been running ST-43 for the last 4 years. Better modulation, longer lasting, less $$. Pagid does a ton of advertising and offers a pretty good product. Raybestos does very little advertising but can be found in the calipers on a lot of pro race team cars in the winners circle. Worth a test drive.
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Last edited by Topless; 06-13-2015 at 02:52 PM.
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06-13-2015, 03:38 PM
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What pads tend to run the cleanest while giving good performance?
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06-15-2015, 06:16 AM
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What pads tend to run the cleanest while giving good performance?
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In the theme of this thread, the answer is none. Race pads generate dust.
Topless - After looking at the price of the ST-43s I am going to have to give them a spin. Been running Pagid oranges and/or blacks for years. Time to buck tradition.
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06-15-2015, 11:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Topless
We used Pagid Yellow/Black for one season but got some pad transfer that caused serious rotor judder at Buttonwillow. Maybe our fault by not getting enough cool down between sessions but we have been running ST-43 for the last 4 years. Better modulation, longer lasting, less $$. Pagid does a ton of advertising and offers a pretty good product. Raybestos does very little advertising but can be found in the calipers on a lot of pro race team cars in the winners circle. Worth a test drive.
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While I'm probably not saying something that you don't already know - but the pad transfer problems were due to the existing pad material not being compatible with the ST material. I've run into that type of issue before when trying new compounds on existing rotors. This is in part why I tend to only switch pads when I switch rotors. I've had some success is running Hawk Blue pads on totally cold rotors (not on track) as "cleaning" pads since they are a very abrasive compound on other cars.
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06-15-2015, 12:00 PM
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Track rat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rastta
While I'm probably not saying something that you don't already know - but the pad transfer problems were due to the existing pad material not being compatible with the ST material. I've run into that type of issue before when trying new compounds on existing rotors. This is in part why I tend to only switch pads when I switch rotors. I've had some success is running Hawk Blue pads on totally cold rotors (not on track) as "cleaning" pads since they are a very abrasive compound on other cars.
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That does happen but not the case on our cars. Fresh pads and fresh rotors when we installed the Pagid. We did get 10 good days with them before the rotor judder issue so they weren't a total loss but we have not had the same problem with Raybestos.
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06-19-2015, 04:53 PM
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just a quick note,
i installed pagid black rs14 all around on my F class boxster and the brake pedal was really good. I did bleed brakes too. I think that was my problem.
tomorrow are my sprint races so i will see how they hold up. I will bleed again tomorrow morning before going on track.
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06-22-2015, 02:50 PM
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Wait, you Boxster boys should'nt even need to use your brakes. I thought it was all balance and momentum?
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