Swapping engines

[piper6909]

Sorry I didn't read this before you went out and bought more tools, but probably the reason they suggested a 'zip' driver is because it makes sudden impact bursts which could jar the nut into turning without the stud, same way using an impact gun on a wheel lug will not cause the entire wheel to turn like it would when using lug wrench. You could make your own "impact" by simply putting a ratchet on it and lightly tapping the handle with a hammer. Then once you're comfortable that it's properly seated and turns you could troque down to spec.

[LoneWolfGal]

Originally Posted by piper6909

Sorry I didn't read this before you went out and bought more tools, but probably the reason they suggested a 'zip' driver is because it makes sudden impact bursts which could jar the nut into turning without the stud, same way using an impact gun on a wheel lug will not cause the entire wheel to turn like it would when using lug wrench. You could make your own "impact" by simply putting a ratchet on it and lightly tapping the handle with a hammer. Then once you're comfortable that it's properly seated and turns you could troque down to spec.

Jake Raby replied to my trouble ticket:

"Piper6909 in the thread is offering some good information. Usually when this scenario occurs the threads of the stud, or the nut have debris or burrs creating this instance. Heavy lubricants can also lead to this when applied to threads. With all the assistance on the thread you have what you need to move forward. The trick that LN advised may seem unorthodox, but it works and does so without any detrimental impacts."

Al, since I don't have a pneumatic zip gun, I'm going to try my powered ratchet and maybe the old-school impact hammer method you suggested. The crowfoot set and bench grinder won't be here until tomorrow anyway. I'm not sorry I bought them. You can't have too many tools. I plan to pick up the set of pass-thru sockets JFP recommended.

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by LoneWolfGal

Jake Raby replied to my trouble ticket:

"Piper6909 in the thread is offering some good information. Usually when this scenario occurs the threads of the stud, or the nut have debris or burrs creating this instance. Heavy lubricants can also lead to this when applied to threads. With all the assistance on the thread you have what you need to move forward. The trick that LN advised may seem unorthodox, but it works and does so without any detrimental impacts."

Al, since I don't have a pneumatic zip gun, I'm going to try my powered ratchet and maybe the old-school impact hammer method you suggested. The crowfoot set and bench grinder won't be here until tomorrow anyway. I'm not sorry I bought them. You can't have too many tools. I plan to pick up the set of pass-thru sockets JFP recommended.

Do you have one of these?

https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-XR-20-volt-Max-1-4-in-Variable-Speed-Brushless-Cordless-Impact-Driver-Tool-only/5014298681?store=2687&cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-vf-_-tol-_-ggl-_-PMAX_Dewalt-_-5014298681-_-local-_-0-_-0&gclsrc=aw.ds&&ds_a_cid=279391351&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwy46_BhDOARIsAIvmcwNxaIIOxZR30hD0S67m fmfKWaUf6bGqPde54zFC_eFBfk5xQ57T2b4aAq7VEALw_wcB

And a set of these?
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-3-Pack-Socket-Adapter-Set/5014901757

If so, you have everything you need. If not, a ratchet and a hammer should work.

[LoneWolfGal]

Originally Posted by piper6909

Do you have one of these?

https://www.lowes.com/pd/DEWALT-XR-20-volt-Max-1-4-in-Variable-Speed-Brushless-Cordless-Impact-Driver-Tool-only/5014298681?store=2687&cm_mmc=shp-_-c-_-vf-_-tol-_-ggl-_-PMAX_Dewalt-_-5014298681-_-local-_-0-_-0&gclsrc=aw.ds&&ds_a_cid=279391351&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwy46_BhDOARIsAIvmcwNxaIIOxZR30hD0S67m fmfKWaUf6bGqPde54zFC_eFBfk5xQ57T2b4aAq7VEALw_wcB

And a set of these?
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Kobalt-3-Pack-Socket-Adapter-Set/5014901757

If so, you have everything you need. If not, a ratchet and a hammer should work.

I have an impact driver, a Ryobi. I got tied up with something today, but I'm planning to try it out tomorrow. If it doesn't work, I'll try the old-school hammer method. If that doesn't work, my new bench grinder and crowfoot wrenches are supposed to be here tomorrow and the Rube Goldberg method will almost certainly work. That is, after I grind a couple of flat sides on the socket for the crowfoot. I'll bet the bench grinder wouldn't break a sweat.

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by LoneWolfGal

I have an impact driver, a Ryobi. I got tied up with something today, but I'm planning to try it out tomorrow. If it doesn't work, I'll try the old-school hammer method. If that doesn't work, my new bench grinder and crowfoot wrenches are supposed to be here tomorrow and the Rube Goldberg method will almost certainly work. That is, after I grind a couple of flat sides on the socket for the crowfoot. I'll bet the bench grinder wouldn't break a sweat.

The Ryobi should do it.

[LoneWolfGal]

Originally Posted by piper6909

The Ryobi should do it.

I'm looking forward to trying it, but I couldn't find my set of impact socket adapters. I turned this place upside down looking for them. So I ordered a $5 set with Prime overnight delivery. In the meantime I've been having fun with my Wen bench grinder, grinding the upper part of the socket to receive a 14mm crowfoot wrench, in case the Ryobi can't seat the nut on the stud. The Wen is a marvelous tool. Don't know how I got along without it.

[LoneWolfGal]

Originally Posted by piper6909

The Ryobi should do it.

You called it, Al. The Ryobi did the trick. And now the nut is torqued to 18 ft lbs, a hair short of the max of 20. Still, I'm a little sorry I didn't give this contraption a chance to do its stuff. It probably would have set the nut just as surely as the impact driver.



I didn't spend a lot of time grinding facets on the socket, more proof I'm getting a handle on my compulsive perfectionism. Not that I didn't think about it. But this part of the installation procedure has dragged on so long that I modified the socket to the point where the 14mm crowfoot wrench would fit on it and called it good. It ain't pretty but it works. Or would, if given a chance.

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by LoneWolfGal

You called it, Al. The Ryobi did the trick. And now the nut is torqued to 18 ft lbs, a hair short of the max of 20. Still, I'm a little sorry I didn't give this contraption a chance to do its stuff. It probably would have set the nut just as surely as the impact driver.

I didn't spend a lot of time grinding facets on the socket, more proof I'm getting a handle on my compulsive perfectionism. Not that I didn't think about it. But this part of the installation procedure has dragged on so long that I modified the socket to the point where the 14mm crowfoot wrench would fit on it and called it good. It ain't pretty but it works. Or would, if given a chance.

Great!

And that's a beautiful contraption you made!