11-22-2006, 09:53 AM
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Nice price on the kit... Now can you make it quit raining here so I can drive.
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11-22-2006, 02:30 PM
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Lemme get this straight, though.....
The Boxster engine has 11.0:1 compression. The supercharger is not intercooled. About the only thing keeping the engine from destroying itself is a pair of extra fuel injectors? Is the ignition timing backed off under boost (i.e. does the DME get reflashed)?
The Boxster engine just wasn't designed for boost, IMO........
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11-22-2006, 03:07 PM
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Yeah your right. Oh wait a minute , no your not.
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11-22-2006, 03:26 PM
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Matt, you better start splainin' yourself with that comment. "no you're not right" don't cut it for me.
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11-22-2006, 03:38 PM
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Im just so tired of hearing the car isnt designed for boost. Im on my second car that wasnt designed for boost and went through the same thing on the last one. It just cant be done, the cars gonna blow, blah blah. Your ride in my car is all the explaining I need to do. How long do I have to drive my supercharged Boxster before people will say it can be done? 1 year , 2 years, 3 years how many miles? It just gets old thats all. Besides, IA flashes the DME and provides larger njectors I think. I cant really remark on IA's kit and dont feel like reading the web site. 5 PSI doesnt need an intercooler my car doesnt detonate.
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11-22-2006, 03:43 PM
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Thank you Matt. I knew this but I wanted an SC'd boxster owner to type it out for everyone.
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11-22-2006, 03:50 PM
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I agree ohio, but id still ask for an intercooler and a cryo-gen system for Xmas (dont know exact name, but its a liquid nitrogen system which drastically reduces intake temp. from like 80 to 32 F)
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11-22-2006, 03:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boggtown
I agree ohio, but id still ask for an intercooler and a cryo-gen system for Xmas (dont know exact name, but its a liquid nitrogen system which drastically reduces intake temp. from like 80 to 32 F)
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Im still thinking of atleast alcohol injection but my car has no detonation at only 5psi and its heck of alot different than stock. The only problem is I've become famaliar to the boost.
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11-22-2006, 06:38 PM
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Anyone know how much this kit is priced normally?
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11-23-2006, 08:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Schnell!
Lemme get this straight, though.....
The Boxster engine has 11.0:1 compression. The supercharger is not intercooled. About the only thing keeping the engine from destroying itself is a pair of extra fuel injectors? Is the ignition timing backed off under boost (i.e. does the DME get reflashed)?
The Boxster engine just wasn't designed for boost, IMO........
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The ecu is reprogrammed by us using GIAC software. We have numerous boxsters out there running the kit, and they are all going strong. The engine will hold up just fine to 4psi of boost. All precautionary measures have been taken.
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11-23-2006, 08:34 AM
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OH, and there are numerous threads on our supercharger kits on the board here. A search will answer a lot of questions.
Kit is normally 7k for the 2.5, and 8k for the 3.2S
JP's car, as well as one of our 2.5L cars will be in an upcoming issue of Excellence and European Car Magazine.
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Last edited by PorscheDoc; 11-23-2006 at 08:36 AM.
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11-23-2006, 09:08 AM
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Carl
that was quick....Dude step away from the CPU you are off work today
Happy Thanksgiving to you and te new bride
(i will have one for you
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11-23-2006, 09:16 AM
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It would be nice if Porschedoc would do an install and take pictures I would like to see the differences between the two.
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11-23-2006, 09:10 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PorscheDoc
The ecu is reprogrammed by us using GIAC software. We have numerous boxsters out there running the kit, and they are all going strong. The engine will hold up just fine to 4psi of boost. All precautionary measures have been taken.
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Are there any test results (perhaps a chart with "psi boost" on the horizontal axis and "reliability" on the vertical axis) showing how "just fine" below 4psi becomes "not so good" above 4psi? Is there an abrupt slump in the graph at 4psi or is it a smooth down-sloping line? Test like these are very expensive and are only viable for large economies of scale (factory production) or for very expensive products. They are also a neccessity for anybody offering a 4yr warranty on their product. One miscalculation (oops!) and the firm can go bust from paying out claims.
I am not denying that there are talented people at after-market shops that can take short-cuts with rules-of-thumb or wing it from experience. That's just different from a proper testing procedure that's normally prohibitively expensive in that scenario. So this injects risks of the unknown. Nothing wrong with the decision to ride out those risks. I am only talking about acknowledging them.
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