08-11-2020, 07:40 PM
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Photos of 986 with the front bumper off
Hi folks,
Does anyone have any photos of the 986 without front bumper off? I'm being lazy af right now and don't want to go downstairs to pull mine off in order to consider mounting options for a potential hitch.
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08-12-2020, 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by beater986
Hi folks,
Does anyone have any photos of the 986 without front bumper off? I'm being lazy af right now and don't want to go downstairs to pull mine off in order to consider mounting options for a potential hitch.
Thanks
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Nappenin. ...
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08-12-2020, 07:08 AM
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08-12-2020, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by beater986
... Does anyone have any photos of the 986 without front bumper off? ... in order to consider mounting options for a potential hitch...
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Get your story straight. Title says "With the front bumper off" and your post says "without front bumper off".
Stuff like that is a magnet for Starter and Piper, then the whole thread goes to ****************.
...and how far off is off? Hitch? front? bumper? Are you going to do the RV 'toad' thing? Have some coffee and explain yourself.
Here's some pics of various levels of disrobement:
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08-12-2020, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 78F350
Get your story straight. Title says "With the front bumper off" and your post says "without front bumper off".
Stuff like that is a magnet for Starter and Piper, then the whole thread goes to ****************.
...and how far off is off? Hitch? front? bumper? Are you going to do the RV 'toad' thing? Have some coffee and explain yourself.
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Retract your claws, tiger. He may have had a typo or brain fart, but most of us saw beyond that and understood what he's asked and replied accordingly, including myself.
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08-12-2020, 06:38 PM
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Retract your claws, tiger.
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Nappenin. ...
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Originally Posted by piper6909
... but most of us saw beyond that and understood what he's asked and replied accordingly, including myself.
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It appears that I also gleaned his desire and presented three times as much help as you did. With mine, he didn't even have to click a link. When you are "lazy af" it's hard to click more links.
The rest of my post was pointed at encouraging a response as to why someone with a cool camper-Boxster would put a hitch on the front stead the rear.
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08-12-2020, 06:53 PM
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Nappenin. ...
It appears that I also gleaned his desire and presented three times as much help as you did. With mine, he didn't even have to click a link. When you are "lazy af" it's hard to click more links.
The rest of my post was pointed at encouraging a response as to why someone with a cool camper-Boxster would put a hitch on the front stead the rear.
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Understood, but why drag my name into it? Did my post to the OP cause the thread to go to ****************?
And if he's not too lazy to post a question, he's definitely not too lazy to click a link.
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Last edited by piper6909; 08-12-2020 at 07:22 PM.
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08-15-2020, 05:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 78F350
Get your story straight. Title says "With the front bumper off" and your post says "without front bumper off".
Stuff like that is a magnet for Starter and Piper, then the whole thread goes to ****************.
...and how far off is off? Hitch? front? bumper? Are you going to do the RV 'toad' thing? Have some coffee and explain yourself.
Here's some pics of various levels of disrobement:
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Awesome, thanks so much and this is extremely helpful. I no longer have garage space, so having a clear understanding of what I'm getting into before tearing things apart just to visualize it is great.
The goal is to have an interchangeable accessory system with quick-removal since theft is a serious problem here.
I want to mount a camera slider or alternatively a light bar to the front of the vehicle.
I decided the best course is to CNC attachments to the end of the bumper bar that protrude downward and then secure a bent tube structure with the cotter pin.
Originally I wanted to be able to support 200lbs, so I could add a bucket seat and capture video, but I'm not sure that's doable, I'll have to live with a camera slider
Horrible photoshop example of what I'm shooting for:
Taking some rough measurements and 3d printing a road to check if the bend radius and width is correct:
Fairly close, width correct, radius off by an inchish:
Full assembly design:
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08-16-2020, 02:46 AM
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First time posting pictures?
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08-16-2020, 03:20 AM
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I wish i could post pictures that size...whatever I uploaded, it was compressed and resized.
So I am impressed, first time posting pictures here and you figured out how to post oversize
cool project

see...auto resize
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08-16-2020, 01:13 PM
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Beater986, pardon my stepping on your thread;
Jon, do you have any more info on the car in the top pic?
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08-16-2020, 02:30 PM
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Beater986, pardon my stepping on your thread;
Jon, do you have any more info on the car in the top pic?
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Hey Barry, That's Woody's Rallycross car. You should talk to him about your plans - he knows stuff about cutting up these cars.
Read the whole thing: 6 months to live build thread
Beater986, Cool plan. It all makes sense now. Thanks for the pics. (The default size the forum uses is an 800 pix width ~ Starter986 can just add you to his ignore list if he doesn't like the big pics...  )
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08-16-2020, 06:15 PM
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Thank you, I hadn't read the last two pages of his thread. What a hoot!
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08-17-2020, 10:21 AM
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This is another interesting project you're taking head on beater. I think it's time to rename your Porsche Boxster to Porsche Campster. I look forward to another thread when you add a grill to the trunk. It's already a warming tray by itself after a nice drive.
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08-18-2020, 03:57 AM
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Are you dead set on having oval lights? If not than maybe a light bar might be easier to mount and lighter. I have a feeling that those lights will stick out farther than you expect. The weight and distance from a sturdy mounting point might make the lights bounce up and down like crazy. Just another idea, what about installing a third radiator hole on the bumper cover and mounting the light bar behind the radiator using the mounting tabs for the third radiator? Or cutting round holes into your bumper cover and mount the oval lights farther back and flush with the cover?
If you're set on mounting lights in front of the bumper, I would suggest mounting the light support bar either to the radiator support brackets or where the radiator brackets attach to the body
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08-21-2020, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by itsnotanova
Are you dead set on having oval lights? If not than maybe a light bar might be easier to mount and lighter. I have a feeling that those lights will stick out farther than you expect. The weight and distance from a sturdy mounting point might make the lights bounce up and down like crazy. Just another idea, what about installing a third radiator hole on the bumper cover and mounting the light bar behind the radiator using the mounting tabs for the third radiator? Or cutting round holes into your bumper cover and mount the oval lights farther back and flush with the cover?
If you're set on mounting lights in front of the bumper, I would suggest mounting the light support bar either to the radiator support brackets or where the radiator brackets attach to the body
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All super valid concerns, but I am dead set on the classic circular lights. Totally different aesthetic than light bars. The circular lights pay homage to Porsche's rally roots and give a nod to cannonball.
The absolute easiest way to accomplish this would hands down be to use the RTS system mounting points on the A pillar, but again aesthetic.
I'm also dead set on having the completely returnable to stock form, so cutting anything is out. Though I could see how cutting the lights IN to the bumper might actually look very good.
Last, I want to create a mount 'system'. Where I can swap lights for camera mounting, or a jerrycan carrier, or something else quickly and easily. I also want the system to be detachable due to theft (serious problem, my truck was stolen and stripped of its lights and offroad stuff)
I approach these things from a productionization point of view as well. If I'm going to invest 100+ hours in research and $1000+ in CNC tube bending/maching for a prototype. If there is demand, I might make a kit available publicly to try to amortize those costs.
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Originally Posted by 1PorscheBoxster986
This is another interesting project you're taking head on beater. I think it's time to rename your Porsche Boxster to Porsche Campster. I look forward to another thread when you add a grill to the trunk. It's already a warming tray by itself after a nice drive.
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Ha. You're reading my mind. I have some ideas for a concealable hitch system where a luggage rack (or other) can be mounted at the back.
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08-28-2020, 12:44 AM
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Just ordered a space bumper bar to take measurements from.
Here's what I'm thinking for the mounting system:
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08-28-2020, 05:40 AM
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Beater...
Have you considered that bar you're designing... upon which you'll mount the lights... fabricating it in a manner so that it "plugs in", if you will, to the tow hook threads. That would be the only mounting point... and the part that screws into the tow hook bolt hole, the piece that will be mated to the bar... that mounting point (weld, bolts, nuts, whatever fastener) could be hidden or nicely finished.
No?
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08-31-2020, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Starter986
Beater...
Have you considered that bar you're designing... upon which you'll mount the lights... fabricating it in a manner so that it "plugs in", if you will, to the tow hook threads. That would be the only mounting point... and the part that screws into the tow hook bolt hole, the piece that will be mated to the bar... that mounting point (weld, bolts, nuts, whatever fastener) could be hidden or nicely finished.
No?

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The only problem is I can't stop things from rotating, and having all of that mass of the bar relying on a single point is going to cause bounce.
The goal is still to have the bar removable in < 3 minutes back to stock so it can be thrown on quickly for excursions.
Here's progress:
Light spacing measurements are a bit off, but things are going well. Printing the (hopefully) last version now.
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