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Old 01-12-2015, 12:38 PM   #1
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Apple Carplay in the Boxster?

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Has anyone installed the hardware and enabled carplay in their 986's yet? Has anyone even debated it and figured out the pros/cons etc?

Should be like installing any other double din receiver I suppose. I use an iphone and I think this would be a pretty nice upgrade in my opinion!!

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I did this instead:
Ipad mini in-dash installation

Works great and I highly recommend it! With that said, I am looking for a CarPlay receiver for my truck. So far I have only seen Alpine and Pioneer models which have not impressed me. Still waiting.
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Very nice! I really like the iPad mini installation and functionality much better, but it also means that I will require to buy an iPad with GSM/LTE and also add another data plan to be able to use navigation. With carplay, you can use the Apple Maps app and use your existing data plan for your phone.

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Works great and I highly recommend it! With that said, I am looking for a CarPlay receiver for my truck. So far I have only seen Alpine and Pioneer models which have not impressed me. Still waiting.
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Very nice! I really like the iPad mini installation and functionality much better, but it also means that I will require to buy an iPad with GSM/LTE and also add another data plan to be able to use navigation. With carplay, you can use the Apple Maps app and use your existing data plan for your phone.
You can always use your phone as a hot spot. I bought a used iPad mini which makes this an economical install. In the end you have a much more capable system. I do like the CarPlay concept though and look forward to having it in my truck.
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Reviving this since my interest has really piqued in this now - This is my next project.

BruceH, unfortunately I have the unlimited data plan with AT&T and they don't let you use the hot spot feature unless you switch to a limited data plan. I don't want to leave my unlimited data plan yet.

Pioneer has some sets out that are carplay enabled:
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Reviving this since my interest has really piqued in this now - This is my next project.

BruceH, unfortunately I have the unlimited data plan with AT&T and they don't let you use the hot spot feature unless you switch to a limited data plan. I don't want to leave my unlimited data plan yet.

Pioneer has some sets out that are carplay enabled:
Pioneer CarPlay
I have done the install. I have a 4000NEX receiver with CarPlay and App radio. I never use AppRadio and use CarPlay a lot.

What questions do you have?

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Thanks for responding - here are the questions I have in my head, since you asked

Is it a straightforward install? Does it require any modifications to the bezel or other parts? Did you do it yourself?
How does the data for carplay work? I assume through the phone, but does it use your existing data plan?
I read that it does not pair over bluetooth so it requires re-pairing everytime. If so, how do you make/answer calls?
Is there an included mike on the carplay unit?
Are there a lot of carplay apps out there?
If you had to do it again, would you install it or get an ipad mini instead?

Thanks in advance.

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I have done the install. I have a 4000NEX receiver with CarPlay and App radio. I never use AppRadio and use CarPlay a lot.

What questions do you have?

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Thanks for responding - here are the questions I have in my head, since you asked
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Is it a straightforward install?
It is relatively straightforward if you do your homework. There is a lot of info out there to help you do the install. I would recommend that you buy a housing that comes with a wiring harness. Here is one of my threads Installing Pioneer AVH 4000NEX with Euro Motorsport Double DIN

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Does it require any modifications to the bezel or other parts?
The Euromotorsport housing comes with a bezel and it drops in quite nicely.

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Did you do it yourself?
I did the install myself. It took a day.

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How does the data for carplay work? I assume through the phone, but does it use your existing data plan?
It uses your data plan. If you stream (Spotify) you use data. If you use their GPS app, you use data.

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I read that it does not pair over bluetooth so it requires re-pairing everytime. If so, how do you make/answer calls?
My radio connects via bluetooth if I do not plug the phone in. It is seamless. I am not sure about other models.

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Is there an included mike on the carplay unit?
The pioneer unit had a mike that I wired up. It works great, even with the top down.

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Are there a lot of carplay apps out there?
I would not say a LOT. Here is the current list. https://www.apple.com/ios/carplay/

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If you had to do it again, would you install it or get an ipad mini instead?
I would do it again. Unless there is a kit for the iPad, I think that I would have had a much harder time installing.
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Thanks for responding - here are the questions I have in my head, since you asked

Is it a straightforward install? Does it require any modifications to the bezel or other parts? Did you do it yourself?
How does the data for carplay work? I assume through the phone, but does it use your existing data plan?
I read that it does not pair over bluetooth so it requires re-pairing everytime. If so, how do you make/answer calls?
Is there an included mike on the carplay unit?
Are there a lot of carplay apps out there?
If you had to do it again, would you install it or get an ipad mini instead?

Thanks in advance.

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I just installed the Poneer 6100NEX in my truck and it is excellent. The touch screen is very responsive. Since you can't use your phone as a hotspot, then get the Pioneer and plug your phone in to use your phone's data plan. The built in GPS is good or you can use Apple maps. Get the proper Metra wiring harness to make the installation simpler. Like JPC763 said, get the Euro Motorsport install kit. The mic that comes with the Pioneer works well. Your phone will connect via blutooth for music and phone calls, but to use CarPlay, and the CarPlay screen, you have to connect via USB/lightning cable. I would not have any regrets installing a Pioneer AVIC 6100NEX into my Boxster rather than the iPad mini. Here is a link to what I got for my truck:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SKJH6EQ?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s01
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One thing that irritated me about the Pioneer is that if you want to use App Radio, you need to use USB1 and the HDMI input. If you want to use Car Play than you also have to use USB1 but not the HDMI.

Since I did not want a bunch of cables hanging out of my dash (there is also USB2 and Aux), I got a couple of adapters and mounted them in my cubby.

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I just installed the Poneer 6100NEX in my truck and it is excellent. The touch screen is very responsive. Since you can't use your phone as a hotspot, then get the Pioneer and plug your phone in to use your phone's data plan. The built in GPS is good or you can use Apple maps. Get the proper Metra wiring harness to make the installation simpler. Like JPC763 said, get the Euro Motorsport install kit. The mic that comes with the Pioneer works well. Your phone will connect via blutooth for music and phone calls, but to use CarPlay, and the CarPlay screen, you have to connect via USB/lightning cable. I would not have any regrets installing a Pioneer AVIC 6100NEX into my Boxster rather than the iPad mini. Here is a link to what I got for my truck:
Amazon.com : Pioneer AVIC-6100NEX In-Dash Navigation AV Receiver with 6.2" WVGA Touchscreen Display : Electronics
If you had to choose one over the other, which would it be? The iPad is much lighter and....
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One thing that irritated me about the Pioneer is that if you want to use App Radio, you need to use USB1 and the HDMI input. If you want to use Car Play than you also have to use USB1 but not the HDMI.

Since I did not want a bunch of cables hanging out of my dash (there is also USB2 and Aux), I got a couple of adapters and mounted them in my cubby.

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I like the look of that , i was going to hard wire my radar detector but then though I would lose the smart cord.
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If you had to choose one over the other, which would it be? The iPad is much lighter and....
That is a tough question! The ipad is more capable since it can use any Apple app and CarPlay has a very limited number of apps. But...how many apps are you really going to use while you are driving? Reality is, most of the time, music, phone and maps which CarPlay does very well with nice big buttons that are easy to see. You can not make the app buttons larger on the mini even though it has the bigger screen. Also, with the mini, you still need a head unit where with the Pioneer, you will gain a cubby. During the summer months with the top down, ocaisonally, the iPad will overheat and shutdown. The other irritation is if the car sits for a few days, the iPad continues to drain so you may jump in your car and the iPad will be dead, coming to life after about 10 minutes of driving.

You can see, there are pluses and minuses. I installed my mini before CarPlay was even announced so it wasn't an option at that time. Fast forward to today and I think if given the choice, I would get the Pioneer. It works really well, better actually than I expected. I drove my truck today for some errands just because I wanted to play with the new Pioneer and it continues to impress me. The mini looks fantastic and works great too, so for now, it will stay, I really do like the mini install and it is not hard to do, it just isn't as seamless and easy as installing an all in one HU. One other note, if you are using the stock Porsche radio, it will keep the iPad charged continuously. The single DIN Pioneer HU that I am now using, only charges when the ignition is on. I bought the Pioneer a year and a half ago to get hands free calling. If you want a back up camera, the Pioneer is the way to go since there really is not any great option for a back up camera for the mini. Again, it really is a tough choice, but in the end, if I was doing the install today, I would probably go with the Pioneer, notice I said probably
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Here is what my truck install looks like. I picked up the USB/Audio jacks on eBay, they fit the Tundra openings perfectly.





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I really like the seamless look of the IPad in the 986 ....looks clean and flush. I would probably want a switch to prevent charging all the time. Do you really need the Becker to charge with car off or can this be easily done if one wishes?

I was hoping not use a HU at all.....a Parrot amp and FM radio ap or something

My lower dins will be full.

The pioneer really suits the Tundra dash but would it work as well the Boxster...not sure. What are the USB ports for?????
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Has anyone used a reciever with MirrorLink? This thread got me searching and I came across the alpine ics x7hd, with the capability to mirror your phone on the reciever touchscreen. Wondering if there's any lag.

I like the simplicity of apple but I like my soundcloud and waze too much.
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I really like the seamless look of the IPad in the 986 ....looks clean and flush. I would probably want a switch to prevent charging all the time. Do you really need the Becker to charge with car off or can this be easily done if one wishes?

I was hoping not use a HU at all.....a Parrot amp and FM radio ap or something

My lower dins will be full.

The pioneer really suits the Tundra dash but would it work as well the Boxster...not sure. What are the USB ports for?????
I love the look too, it really looks great in person. I am not sure how you would keep the Becker from always charging the iPad. I thought about just an amp also, but buying a single DIN HU was the easiest way to get handsfree calling. If you are going to run a radio app, keep in mind that you will need a data plan.

Yes, it does fit the Tundra well, Metra makes a great surround piece that looks OEM. The USB ports are for iPhone/android phone/music player/flash drive etc connection. Remember, for CarPlay to work, it has to be a wired connection. You can play music via Bluetooth but with out the CarPlay interface.There is an HDMI port on the back of the pioneer that I do not have connected. The unit also has a DVD player that you can use while driving via a software bypass. No, I do not recommend watching movies while driving, but listening to a concert DVD is a nice deal.
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Since you can't use your phone as a hotspot, then get the Pioneer and plug your phone in to use your phone's data plan
AT&T allow tethering with unlimited data plans?
seems like they are the most militant carrier against data sharing for unlimited users.
For limited data plans this car play sounds like a boondoggle for all the carriers. Or do they let you share your limit cap with the car play?

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Most people have unlimited data plans which is what CarPlay uses. You have to hook your phone up to the HU using the Lightning cable, which then initiates CarPlay and uses your unlimited phone plan.

My reference to using your phone as a hot spot refers to having an iPad mini installed and then using your phones data plan to provide data to the iPad. Three ways to go, sign up with your carrier and pay the monthly fee along with the data cap, jailbreak your phone and use an app that uses your phone's unlimited data plan, or buy a data plan for the iPad. I have a $15/month data plan for the iPad. Not sure exactly what my limit is, I believe I have 5gb's but I have not ever exceeded my limit.
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I like the look of that , i was going to hard wire my radar detector but then though I would lose the smart cord.
You can buy a hardwired smart cord. That is what I have. It is wired into the Aux Phone power.

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