08-27-2017, 11:48 AM
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Calling on Master Mechanics… Again.
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08-27-2017, 08:06 PM
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Remember "7 links apart" ? It is very easy when refitting the camshafts (particularly Bank 2) to have the chain slip 1 tooth. You need to use a paint Marker pen on both sprockets and both links. Even so, it is very difficult to check your work on Bank 2.
How did you confirm that Bank 2 Solenoid and Actuator are functioning correctly?
Did you dismantle the Actuator?
Replacing the Tensioner for Bank 2 is quite difficult -access. Did you soak it first?
Check some of the Threads by dporto in 996 Section for "hard reset".
If your Durametric reading is with a cold engine it may be misleading
This could take a while to diagnose. Ask me .........
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08-27-2017, 08:14 PM
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Wow that looks foreboding
Did you do this while the engine was in your car ??
And one more question please, after replacing the tensioners / does the engine still rattle when first started cold...I have always been curious about this
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08-27-2017, 08:40 PM
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Myself, not even being a YouTube certified mechanic, did similar work on an Audi V8. Rather than just changing the pads, I replace the entire tensioner on both sides. After putting it back together and turning the crank, the link count was off by 1/2 link on one side. Turned out I had the tensioners on the wrong side. They fit and looked identical other than the part number. Any chance you swapped the tensioners?
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08-28-2017, 04:57 PM
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Gelbster,
Remember "7 links apart" ? It is very easy when refitting the camshafts (particularly Bank 2) to have the chain slip 1 tooth. You need to use a paint Marker pen on both sprockets and both links. - The chain had different color links to line-up with the marks on the cams, I'm positive chain position is not the issue here.
How did you confirm that Bank 2 Solenoid and Actuator are functioning correctly? - I did not confirm the actuators are functioning, that's why I am wondering if these readings are an indication of a failed actuator.
Did you dismantle the Actuator? - No
Replacing the Tensioner for Bank 2 is quite difficult -access. Did you soak it first? - I did not find it anymore difficult and no I did not soak them.
Check some of the Threads by dporto in 996 Section for "hard reset". - Thanks
If your Durametric reading is with a cold engine it may be misleading - The engine was warm.
Pdwight,
Did you do this while the engine was in your car ?? - Yes
And one more question please, after replacing the tensioners / does the engine still rattle when first started cold...I have always been curious about this -The engine starts better and runs better, probably because timing better overall, and it idles smoother. I never seem to have too much rattle during start-up before, maybe a couple seconds.
78F350,
Any chance you swapped the tensioners? - No, if you look closely at the last photo you can see one of the pads has a set of holes for oil feeds. Under that pad is an O-ring that fits between the pad and tensioner. They fit tight and did not come off after I installed them.
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08-28-2017, 06:56 PM
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Update
I tried to activate the solenoids (engine running) with my Durametric and there was no response. I did a hard reset by disconnecting the "+" side cable from the battery and grounding it. Then when I restarted the engine and used the Durametric to activate the solenoids the motor almost stopped when I activated each side. So it seems both solenoids are working. Then I checked the cam deviation and there was no change.
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09-05-2017, 05:16 PM
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I got similar results when changing out those pads.
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09-05-2017, 05:45 PM
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Quote:
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I got similar results when changing out those pads.

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Paul,
Did you go back and try to re-time Bank 1?
I have been contemplating pulling the oil pump on Bank 2 and trying to get the timing a little better. Six degrees at the crank is only three degrees at the cam.
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09-05-2017, 06:25 PM
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Yes, it's on my going to do someday list.
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1987 924S. 2002 996TT. PST-2
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09-05-2017, 06:27 PM
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I suspect the real issue is a worn chain and tensioner pad from the IMS to the head.
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