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Old 04-28-2016, 05:55 AM   #1
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Just wrote this on the other thread on this issue:

Two good people, obviously have differences in their opinions. I won't agree or disagree with anyone, but there's some valid points from both.

Pedro valid point
I agree with Pedro in that he has re-branded a product and decided to sell it under his name. People do it all the time, and as a trusted member, it gives people peace of mind that when they buy a product from him (with a known reputation of helping others), they're getting a good product. Even if he wants to put a little mark up on it, it's up to him as, like said, people do it all the time.

Particlewave valid point
I agree with Particle wave in that re-branding was never the big problem. Telling everyone it's essentially new and improved is a problem, but raising the price from $20 to $200 is a serious problem. Totally unacceptable. Unless the product has changes, like Pedro has stated in the other thread.

I've never dealt with Pedro but I've used his guides, which as we all know are free of charge to view. This in my books makes him quite a respectable person. I've dealt with Particlewave a few times and he's been incredibly helpful, saving my ass a few times and recording a how-to video especially for a problem I had. Not many people would go out of the way to do that for a single individual.

Both have points, but both need to calm down a little (no disrespect to either). Apologies for sitting on the fence but I'd rather not take sides, as they're both good people

I think what needs to happen is for an administrator to delete the threads, and to send a PM to each one recommending them to keep their confrontations to themselves.
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Well... I've read every thread and every post on this 'issue' and I just don't understand what the fuzz is all about.

It might be that I am on the other side of the ocean and that smokin' pot is legal where I live, but I see a lot of this goin' on:

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Well... I've read every thread and every post on this 'issue' and I just don't understand what the fuzz is all about.

It might be that I am on the other side of the ocean and that smokin' pot is legal where I live, but I see a lot of this goin' on:

This is just too funny
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Well... I've read every thread and every post on this 'issue' and I just don't understand what the fuzz is all about.

It might be that I am on the other side of the ocean and that smokin' pot is legal where I live, but I see a lot of this goin' on:

There is alot of this going on and I wish it would stop. Both on this forum (only recently) and in the U.S. If it gets really bad I have dual citzenship and I may need to move back to Europe. Right now I am confident it will be okay. I really like this forum and the U.S. and plan on staying.
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Just wrote this on the other thread on this issue:

Two good people, obviously have differences in their opinions. I won't agree or disagree with anyone, but there's some valid points from both.

Pedro valid point
I agree with Pedro in that he has re-branded a product and decided to sell it under his name. People do it all the time, and as a trusted member, it gives people peace of mind that when they buy a product from him (with a known reputation of helping others), they're getting a good product. Even if he wants to put a little mark up on it, it's up to him as, like said, people do it all the time.

Particlewave valid point
I agree with Particle wave in that re-branding was never the big problem. Telling everyone it's essentially new and improved is a problem, but raising the price from $20 to $200 is a serious problem. Totally unacceptable. Unless the product has changes, like Pedro has stated in the other thread.

I've never dealt with Pedro but I've used his guides, which as we all know are free of charge to view. This in my books makes him quite a respectable person. I've dealt with Particlewave a few times and he's been incredibly helpful, saving my ass a few times and recording a how-to video especially for a problem I had. Not many people would go out of the way to do that for a single individual.

Both have points, but both need to calm down a little (no disrespect to either). Apologies for sitting on the fence but I'd rather not take sides, as they're both good people

I think what needs to happen is for an administrator to delete the threads, and to send a PM to each one recommending them to keep their confrontations to themselves.
I agree - it has gotten out of hand on both threads.
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