Porsche not liable for Paul Walker's death, says judge

[jdraupp]

Originally Posted by Perfectlap

I do? How could you possible know what was said with anything more than a guess?
I think the conversation you are imagining there is the one that would have occurred in Fast and the Furious movies.

Playing devil's advocate is one thing, but questioning facts that don't exist and calling them out as presumption just seems like logic to me.

OK, if you and your defense attorney buddies want to live in that world, go for it.

Somewhere along the way, the facts are someone was going between 80 and 90 mph and that was at the time of impact. Meaning they were going way faster before they lost control and scrubbed off speed. When I exceed the speed limit and my wife does not approve she let's me know and nags me in such a tone that it causes me to stop. I'm sure walker knew they were in the office park to see some new commercial space Rodas was contemplating renting. However you slice it, there is NOTHING that makes Porsche liable. NOTHING.

[Giller]

Most of us seem to agree that people should take responsibility for their actions....which ultimately, Rodas did. He's dead. But Walker, we have NO WAY to know what he said or didn't say. Maybe Walkers family should be suing Rodas' estate....
In the end though, if Porsche made a car that was unsafe, then they should be held accountable as well. They have a responsibility here too.
Courts and evidence will ultimately decide if Porsche is culpable, not us arguing with one another, as fun as that may be for some.

[The Radium King]

Originally Posted by Giller

if Porsche made a car that was unsafe, then they should be held accountable as well. They have a responsibility here too.

why?









ps, apparently 'why' is too short a response and requires additional text to be accepted.

[boxxster]

It is absolutely porsche's fault for building such a dangerous car. They should be sued for everything they are worth and I hope they lose. Does anybody here actually think that the driver should be held responsible for crashing such a dangerous car? Porsche put the engine in the car not Roger. If the engine wasn't there then Roger wouldn't have crashed the car in the first place.

[jdraupp]

Originally Posted by boxxster

It is absolutely porsche's fault for building such a dangerous car. They should be sued for everything they are worth and I hope they lose. Does anybody here actually think that the driver should be held responsible for crashing such a dangerous car? Porsche put the engine in the car not Roger. If the engine wasn't there then Roger wouldn't have crashed the car in the first place.

Don't forget the tire manufacturer for making tires that didn't grip the road good enough keep it on the pavement. Probably should sue the company that sourced the parts for the key. Can't start the engine without that. (I'm hoping your post was sarcastic and I'm just adding more sarcasm to the layer.)

[boxxster]

Originally Posted by jdraupp

I'm hoping your post was sarcastic and I'm just adding more sarcasm to the layer

Couldn't help myself

[rexcramer]

I can't speak to whether Porsche is responsible for supplying a dangerous car. The Federal regulations that govern vehicles in the USA are pretty onerous on the manufacturers. Which is why we can't buy a Tata here.

What I think I can be fairly sure of is that Rodas and Walker didn't want a 'nanny controlled' car. They knowingly bought and built-up the car they wanted. My hunch is Walker knew what Rodas' driving habits were like and got in the car willingly.

Over 32,000 people were killed in traffic accidents in 2014. (per NHTSA) Families sue auto makers all the time, it's what lawyers do and the American way. (Firestone tires on Explorers)

If I can make a problem somebody else's fault, then I don't have to change my behavior or take responsibility.

[Giller]

If a company makes a faulty product, they are liable for any damages it causes. History is rife with poorly made products that have caused injury and death. Those companies have been fined and sued.
Now, did Porsche make an unsafe product? I don't know, I'm not a lawyer....but it certainly is possible that Porsche is partially responsible due to manufacturer negligence.

[coreseller]

Originally Posted by Giller

If a company makes a faulty product, they are liable for any damages it causes. History is rife with poorly made products that have caused injury and death. Those companies have been fined and sued.
Now, did Porsche make an unsafe product? I don't know, I'm not a lawyer....but it certainly is possible that Porsche is partially responsible due to manufacturer negligence.

The CGT has always been known to be unforgiving at the limits, it's nearly 1/2 million dollar entry price hopefully negated the uninitiated.......not always though.

The car in question had 6 year old tires, the lawyer involved also was suspect in several regards to a degree. We will see.

[The Radium King]

Originally Posted by Giller

If a company makes a faulty product, they are liable for any damages it causes. History is rife with poorly made products that have caused injury and death. Those companies have been fined and sued.
Now, did Porsche make an unsafe product? I don't know, I'm not a lawyer....but it certainly is possible that Porsche is partially responsible due to manufacturer negligence.

i would hesitate to use the terms 'unsafe' and 'faulty' interchangeably. if i aim a gun at someone that is unsafe. if, when fired, the gun explodes in my face instead of doing what it is supposed to, then it is faulty.

some things are inherently unsafe; alcohol, tobacco, firearms. you can still buy them. nothing wrong with making and selling an unsafe product. a 600 hp missile made of carbon fibres and glue would be presumed to be relatively unsafe. it's not like porsche marketed the car based on its safety features.

was it faulty? it's not like a pinto, bursting into flame the moment the rear bumper gets tapped. if the best they have is that the brake lines ruptured and the seat belt was difficult to operate, realise the damn thing had a tree pretty much pass right through it due to driver error.

[coreseller]

Originally Posted by boxxster

It is absolutely porsche's fault for building such a dangerous car. They should be sued for everything they are worth and I hope they lose. Does anybody here actually think that the driver should be held responsible for crashing such a dangerous car? Porsche put the engine in the car not Roger. If the engine wasn't there then Roger wouldn't have crashed the car in the first place.

All I can say is Wow..................

Time to revive the Checker Marathon,

This should rile things up............boxxster, let me guess, you are a millennial?