08-08-2015, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by EJ-Fresno
You can drive your car (illegally of course) even if you had 2 beers as long as your judgement is not impaired.
Is it illegal to drive after smoking weed though?
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Private track?
I'm only saying it was likely more of a "hot head" factor than "pot head" that got him killed.
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08-08-2015, 08:24 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Timco
Private track?
I'm only saying it was likely more of a "hot head" factor than "pot head" that got him killed.
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They go hand and hand.
It is proven that people use less of a critical thinking approach if they consume medication/drugs/alcohol often. Maybe he got high that night, but got mad at that race and that's why we are talking about it.
What happens is that they get so used to the track because it's their second home that walking or being on it is normal. More brain cells could of helped
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08-08-2015, 09:30 AM
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^not very smart counselor. I assume that's not your real name? This is an open forum and you're admitting to the use of a controlled substance while operating a motor vehicle and worse, expressing an opinion that supports a criminal activity. Passing background investigations performed by private employers, and certainly state and federal agencies, that investigate all material publicly available on the Internet that you have authored or posted is standard practice, either directly by the employer or through a third party contracted to investigate potential employees. It would not take a very complex investigation to connect your name with photos of yourself and any admissions of criminal activity, which could disqualify you from a wide range of legal employment or admission to your state's bar as well as the federal courts.
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08-08-2015, 10:06 AM
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IIRC, that corner where the incident occurred was not lit very well and Ward was wearing a dark driving suit. That doesn't help the situation either.
But Ward broke rule #1: stay in your car until it's safe to get out. I just watched the video again and his car had barely stopped before he was out of it and he walked down into the middle lane to point at Stewart.
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08-08-2015, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by JayG
Yes, a dumb ass move.
Anyone with any track time knows you don't walk around on a hot track
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And contradicted by an endless reel of first tier NASCAR drivers doing precisely that...where Stewart himself appears rather conspicuously. None of these drivers were alleged to have been under the influence of Marijuana, alcohol or any other stimulants when they deliberately walked into the direction of traffic. As far as bad decision making, an expert witness could be brought on to argue that Ward's age and the lack of frontal lobe development prevented him physically from accurately sensing the danger he was moving towards. Whereas Tony Stewart a 40 year old grown man with an allegedly fully developed frontal lobe had no physical excuse for driving towards Ward to get close enough to yell at him or spray dirt on him. A second expert witness for the family, say a former professional racing driver could testify that Stewart had no reason to divert from the center of the track but to approach Ward and that such an act was inexcusable and reckless for an experienced professional. The defense would argue that the lighting was low and that Ward was wearing black but a decent plaintiff's lawyer could turn that on Stewart and argue all the more reason not to have driven that close to Ward in the first place as Stewart a veteran of dirt tracks is no stranger of such things.
A jury would have no trouble connecting the dots in declaring that Stewart was at least partially responsible for Ward's death.
Additionaly, the Ward family could put up a range of qualified expert witnesses to refute the contention that the presence of THC in the blood is proof of an individual being under the influence at the time of the race. Ward's very performance in the race, where he was driving very well, could be evidence that Ward was not impaired.
If Stewart is smart he'll get out the check book and not put himself in a position to potentially lose public support. Financially he has a lot more to lose than a judgment.
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08-08-2015, 10:21 AM
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Does "reputation" matter so much that you'd rather clinch a financial deal and still be seen as guilty or go to trial and drops be charged?
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08-08-2015, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Perfectlap
^not very smart counselor. I assume that's not your real name? This is an open forum and you're admitting to the use of a controlled substance while operating a motor vehicle and worse, expressing an opinion that supports a criminal activity. Passing background investigations performed by private employers, and certainly state and federal agencies, that investigate all material publicly available on the Internet that you have authored or posted is standard practice, either directly by the employer or through a third party contracted to investigate potential employees. It would not take a very complex investigation to connect your name with photos of yourself and any admissions of criminal activity, which could disqualify you from a wide range of legal employment or admission to your state's bar as well as the federal courts.
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1. I have done it outside of this country and it was in his property (:
2. Employers? Are you serious? That's poor talk. I'm the employer.
3. I will be the first to have canabbis driver school, for people that get a ticket while been high off weed.
4. And most importantly. I am not a counselor. My observation of the matter is quite correct.
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08-08-2015, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.JonathanLanda
1. I have done it outside of this country and it was in his property (:
2. Employers? Are you serious? That's poor talk. I'm the employer.
3. I will be the first to have canabbis driver school, for people that get a ticket while been high off weed. Mo money my friend
4. And most importantly. I am not a counselor. My observation of the matter is quite correct.
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08-08-2015, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by EJ-Fresno
Does "reputation" matter so much that you'd rather clinch a financial deal and still be seen as guilty or go to trial and drops be charged?
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You settle now... fresh off the decision not to prosecute. If you walk into the lion's den and allow the Ward family lawyers to do any number of things like for instance recreating the accident with helmet cams to show that Stewart had a clear line of sight to a guy in a black suit walking onto the track and then showing that Stewart must have turned the steering wheel to move towards Ward's spot.....very bad for Tony, especially if that gets released to the media.
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08-08-2015, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr.JonathanLanda
1. I have done it outside of this country and it was in his property (:
2. Employers? Are you serious? That's poor talk. I'm the employer.
3. I will be the first to have canabbis driver school, for people that get a ticket while been high off weed.
4. And most importantly. I am not a counselor. My observation of the matter is quite correct.
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lol.
poor talk? If you were rich you wouldn't need to be working as a lawyer in the first place. Or are you planning to work as a public interest lawyer collecting no fees? Planning on living off someone's else money to maintain a high end lifestyle? Because public interest law doesn't pay for Porsches.
Also, admission of illegal acts on foreign soil will not get you past the bar admissions process anymore than admitting to illegal domestic activity.
And I know your not a counselor, they tend to be conservative with their publicly searchable admissions of illegal activity.
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08-08-2015, 11:09 AM
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Ward family files wrongful death lawsuit vs. Tony Stewart
Aren't you the dumbass that asked me if I lift? All random
You should hit the books and less the weights
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Originally Posted by Perfectlap
lol.
poor talk? If you were rich you wouldn't need to be working as a lawyer in the first place. Or are you planning to work as a public interest lawyer collecting no fees? Planning on living off someone's else money to maintain a high end lifestyle? Because public interest law doesn't pay for Porsches.
Also, admission of illegal acts on foreign soil will not get you past the bar admissions process anymore than admitting to illegal domestic activity.
And I know your not a counselor, they tend to be conservative with their publicly searchable admissions of illegal activity.
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This is why stupid people should die.
This world is run by rules.
You see a red light, you stop.
So why not know how the rules work. Why not make your own rules, within the law.
So being an attorney does not mean you have to work and make a living by being people's problem solver. It means that you have the power of the state to do procedures that enable people and business to function properly.
An attorney can run a baseball team or a chain of hotels. You need law in everything.
I am becoming an attorney to let me continue our empire. Why will I do personal injury with commercial claims?
Because I can get millions for faxing in medical bills and records. A demand packet, and expect a commercial check to be from 1 mil to 10mil, depending on case.
I know how to submit info to BI Claim adjusters that make millions, unlike you maggot.
So come back to me once you know what an attorney is and how to make money.
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08-08-2015, 11:21 AM
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Please everyone
STOP Feeding the Troll
His is simply a narcissistic spoiled brat who doesn't have a clue how the real world operates
He thinks his Daddy's money lets him say or do anything regardless of the consequences
No matter how right you may be and how wrong he may be, he will ALWAYS be right and you will always be wrong
In his juvenile warped mind, he may think he is being funny and in fact it is very sad.
His making statements like: "This is why stupid people should die." shows his character, his family's character and how he was poorly raised.
Those that really have money, generally don't make a point as often as they can about how rich they are nor do they spout off how poor others may be, especially when they have no clue to the other persons wealth
He is the kind of person that will run a red light, cause an accident that he is not part of and run away
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08-08-2015, 11:23 AM
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Ward family files wrongful death lawsuit vs. Tony Stewart
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Originally Posted by plus3db
Please everyone
STOP Feeding the Troll
His is simply a narcissistic spoiled brat who doesn't have a clue how the real world operates
He thinks his Daddy's money lets him say or do anything regardless of the consequences
No matter how right you may be and how wrong he may be, he will ALWAYS be right and you will always be wrong
In his juvenile warped mind, he may think he is being funny and in fact it is very sad.
His making statements like: "This is why stupid people should die." shows his character, his family's character and how he was poorly raised
He is the kind of person that will run a red light, cause an accident that he is not part of and run away
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He gets it  🏻
Just one wrong thing though. I don't run red lights.
My family sues negligence
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08-08-2015, 11:36 AM
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Ward family files wrongful death lawsuit vs. Tony Stewart
This is why stupid people should die., yes I said that.
People always say, I rather die than being told what to do.
Well, people that are dumb like our gym bro here, we need to tell them what to do, they are our laborers and we have to love them.
But some are just too dumb and they walk in the middle of a race.
Race direction knew sometimes people are dumb so in their briefings they tell them to stay in the car if there's ANY issue, heck, they'll tow you to the pits.
I was taught to wait, analyze what happened, make sure I'm ok and continue waiting. Let them do the work for you and tow me back. I am not walking, too lazy (X
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08-08-2015, 12:02 PM
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I am my own mechanic....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.JonathanLanda
This is why stupid people should die., yes I said that.
People always say, I rather die than being told what to do.
Well, people that are dumb like our gym bro here, we need to tell them what to do, they are our laborers and we have to love them.
But some are just too dumb and they walk in the middle of a race.
Race direction knew sometimes people are dumb so in their briefings they tell them to stay in the car if there's ANY issue, heck, they'll tow you to the pits.
I was taught to wait, analyze what happened, make sure I'm ok and continue waiting. Let them do the work for you and tow me back. I am not walking, too lazy (X
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Donald Trump over here.....
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08-08-2015, 12:26 PM
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maybe we can resurrect that old thread about a neighbors XXX on a roof and substitute the neighbors XXX with the troll.
Then I think everyone would be in agreement with what was suggested to be done
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08-09-2015, 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JayG
Ambulance chasing lawyers all competing for a piece of the pie
The family had to figure out who would give them the best deal
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 🏻 very true. Very very true
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08-10-2015, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Perfectlap
lol.
poor talk? If you were rich you wouldn't need to be working as a lawyer in the first place. Or are you planning to work as a public interest lawyer collecting no fees? Planning on living off someone's else money to maintain a high end lifestyle? Because public interest law doesn't pay for Porsches.
Also, admission of illegal acts on foreign soil will not get you past the bar admissions process anymore than admitting to illegal domestic activity.
And I know your not a counselor, they tend to be conservative with their publicly searchable admissions of illegal activity.
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I wouldn't engage that gutter snipe. The most encouraging thing I heard him say was that he liked to drive stoned. Darwin will catch up with him in due time, as happens so often with these pretentious imbeciles. It'll be sad for the family though, and that's too bad.
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08-10-2015, 07:37 AM
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Ward family files wrongful death lawsuit vs. Tony Stewart
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Originally Posted by linderpat
I wouldn't engage that gutter snipe. The most encouraging thing I heard him say was that he liked to drive stoned. Darwin will catch up with him in due time, as happens so often with these pretentious imbeciles. It'll be sad for the family though, and that's too bad.
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Completely unnecessary
Encouraging? Seriously. Hahaha I wish I could encourage you to work smarter and not harder.
Hahah this loser
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A drink for the poor butt hurt ppl !
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08-10-2015, 07:48 AM
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Donald Trump over here..... 
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I'll be the first to buy tickets out of the country when the election comes down to trump and socialist sanders.
I'm not pleased that the first election I get to take part in will either be some mix between two candidates with names that have already been in office, trumps hair, or a socialist that would literally take every Obama or Carter mistake and double down on it.
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