Go Back   986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners > Porsche Boxster & Cayman Forums > Boxster General Discussions

Post Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-09-2014, 05:49 PM   #1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Chicago
Posts: 6
2008 Boxster S vs Base

I have wanted a Boxster for ever and have been looking and test driving 2008's for the past week. Can anyone help me with making the decision of an S vs the base model. Base seems to be about $3000 to $4000 less. I know the S has a bigger engine but is there something else I'm missing? Or will I have as much fun in either.

Thanks

Wantsasportscar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2014, 06:32 PM   #2
Registered User
 
Tucker2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Seattle
Posts: 274
Garage
The S has more grunt in the low end. That's the most obvious thing about daily driving. I don't track either of my cars...so someone else needs to fill that in. From 4K+ I really can't tell much difference between my S and Base. I recently test drove an '06 CS, and '12 CR. The '06 CS was nice but nothing I would miss. The '12 CR was fantastic. A very very nice and fast car. Both my cars felt slow and heavy compared to the '12 CR.

If you can afford it....get the S. But, you'll have 98% of the same fun in the Base...so don't stress to much. Buy the nicer (condition/service records etc etc) car overall.
__________________
Current: 981 Cayman
Former: '02 BS and '08 C
Tucker2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2014, 07:00 PM   #3
Registered User
 
jacabean's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: mass
Posts: 731
there is a significant difference between the models not just the motor , which is worth the 3 to 4 grand alone . The S has way better brakes , 6 speed , upgraded suspension and are usually better optioned . 07 , 08 have the 3.4 which makes it the best performer of the mk1 987 cars. if you are going to do a base model go 09 or newer your just a hair below that price range anyway .
jacabean is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-09-2014, 07:32 PM   #4
Registered User
 
husker boxster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Omaha
Posts: 2,866
And don't think you can buy a base and then mod it to open up the HP. These are not small block Chevies. Pretty much what you buy is what you get. If you're satisfied with the performance of the base, then fine. If you think you can buy a base and add headers, mufflers, intake plenums, etc and match an S, you'll easily spend $3-4K and gain maybe 15HP. You'll still be short of an S and spent the money to buy one.
__________________
GPRPCA Chief Driving Instructor
2008 Boxster S Limited Edition #005
2008 Cayman S Sport - Signal Green
1989 928 S4 5 spd - black
1987 928 S4 - Granite Green Metallic (Felsengrun)
husker boxster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 06:20 AM   #5
Registered User
 
Perfectlap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 8,709
Keep saving for a 2009S. That puts you at the lowest entry cost for the 2nd newest generation of S model Boxsters.

Or if you plan to put lots of miles on the car, get a 986S with low miles (30-50K) and serviceable IMS bearing (2000-2004).
But if you plan to run it only a couple of times a month then all S model years should be fine.

S model cars have better resale and the extra oomph is very handy for highway merging and passing. These days regular cars have a lot more power and their drivers are a lot less civil then in the past. Some people say that motorists sometimes see a Porsche and want to try block it from passing or merging in front of them because they have some point to prove. Maybe they do that to all cars now, who knows.
__________________
GT3 Recaro Seats - Boxster Red
GT3 Aero / Carrera 18" 5 spoke / Potenza RE-11
Fabspeed Headers & Noise Maker
BORN: March 2000 - FINLAND
IMS#1 REPLACED: April 2010 - NEW JERSEY -- LNE DUAL ROW

Last edited by Perfectlap; 06-10-2014 at 06:25 AM.
Perfectlap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 11:44 AM   #6
Gone
 
Davev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: NV
Posts: 249
Garage
It always makes me wonder why they officially call it a 'Base'. Sorta like calling it 'Entry Level' or 'Bottom' or something. Maybe it was just lost in translation... But a good lesson in Marketing 101: Think thru your name.

I'm so glad I don't hang around with my buds and have to tell them I drive a Base...
Davev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 12:15 PM   #7
Registered User
 
Perfectlap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 8,709
Quote:
Originally Posted by Davev View Post
It always makes me wonder why they officially call it a 'Base'. Sorta like calling it 'Entry Level' or 'Bottom' or something. Maybe it was just lost in translation... But a good lesson in Marketing 101: Think thru your name.

I'm so glad I don't hang around with my buds and have to tell them I drive a Base...
Porsche are indeed the masters of getting people to adopt their marketing speak.

The best example is the Cayman. While the Carrera Cabriolet and the hard top Carrera are both still marketed as Carreras, Porsche decided to market the Boxster coupe (aka Cayman) as a different car and everyone went along with it without blinking an eye. When the car was laucned they marketed the Boxster coupe as a "stepping stone" car to upsell the Carrera. The irony is that on handling it's the reverse pecking order.

But I agree it should not be referred to as a base Boxster. It is the Boxster. Ditto for the Carrera.
Both of these are examples of Porsche trying to get the buyer to second guess his decision and reach deeper into the pocket. It would have been better to simply sell the Boxster with all of the S model options and offer the higher powered model with a unique badge like BMW do with the M badge.
__________________
GT3 Recaro Seats - Boxster Red
GT3 Aero / Carrera 18" 5 spoke / Potenza RE-11
Fabspeed Headers & Noise Maker
BORN: March 2000 - FINLAND
IMS#1 REPLACED: April 2010 - NEW JERSEY -- LNE DUAL ROW

Last edited by Perfectlap; 06-10-2014 at 12:18 PM.
Perfectlap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 01:23 PM   #8
Gone
 
Davev's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: NV
Posts: 249
Garage
Exactly. Like calling it an Impala Base vs Impala SS. Or a million other examples.

Now that I have spent time around Boxsters - I would not hesitate to buy a primo comdition Base model.
Davev is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-10-2014, 05:51 PM   #9
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Chicago
Posts: 6
Thanks everyone for the feedback. I modified my search: 2008 Boxster S and two 2010 Boxster base (one Tiptronic). The S does have a deeper sound to the engine. Variety is.....

Last edited by Wantsasportscar; 06-10-2014 at 05:55 PM.
Wantsasportscar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2014, 04:10 AM   #10
Registered User
 
Jinx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Pittsburgh
Posts: 158
Garage
Base vs S

I have a 2003 "base" Boxster.
It has 17 inch wheels and ABS
And cruise control that's it.
I think the option was called
The sports package on the order form.
I recently enjoyed a Car Control Clinic.
The car really surprised me in
A very good way. I am not sure what
The S could have added to the fun I had
Doing the event.

Bill and Jinx
__________________
Jinx & Bill
Jinx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2014, 08:08 AM   #11
Registered User
 
Perfectlap's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 8,709
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wantsasportscar View Post
Thanks everyone for the feedback. I modified my search: 2008 Boxster S and two 2010 Boxster base (one Tiptronic). The S does have a deeper sound to the engine. Variety is.....
bear in mind that if you are looking at holding the Boxster long term, and the mileage is already high, 2005-2008 Boxsters have an IMS bearing that can not replaced without removing the engine. While Porsche used a far, far less problematic IMS bearing in these cars, no sealed bearing was meant for indefinite service. It hasn't been an issue up to now, but then again only a small % of those cars have reached high mileage so far. If you put light mileage on these cars, and they are low mileage, not an issue at all. All depends on how you intend to use the car and for how long.
But the bigger point is that unless the market is offering a STEEP discount for 2005-2008 Boxsters (and Carreras) over a 2009 with similar mileage, then the 9A1 engine in the 2009 is the better option net.
__________________
GT3 Recaro Seats - Boxster Red
GT3 Aero / Carrera 18" 5 spoke / Potenza RE-11
Fabspeed Headers & Noise Maker
BORN: March 2000 - FINLAND
IMS#1 REPLACED: April 2010 - NEW JERSEY -- LNE DUAL ROW

Last edited by Perfectlap; 06-11-2014 at 08:14 AM.
Perfectlap is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2014, 09:31 AM   #12
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 7,243
mid 2009 S is what I'd keep saving for if I were you, OP.

Why? they redesigned the motor in mid 2009 and it doesn't have an IMS in it, and it also has direct injection.

Plus, if you don't want to row through gears, the mid 2009's got the PDK upgraded transmission which is amazing from what I hear.
RandallNeighbour is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2014, 11:04 AM   #13
Registered User
 
Pilot2519j's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Huntersville, NC
Posts: 655
I concur with the suggestion of the S model over the plain model. If you are concerned with speed the S is the answer but the anecdotal data reveal that the speed factor is negated by the size of the speeding ticket and restrictive speeds everywhere in this country. The brakes is another issue that will trump the speed factor. IN my S the brakes stop on a dime and it sure nice to use them and know of the great job they do. Any kind ot modification you do in a Boxster costs plenty of $$$$$$$$$$$$ so the answer is opt for the S model since it will cost you a tidy fortune to upgrade the base to the S specs. In any event I am sure you will enjoy whchever you decide to buy. Good luck!!!!
__________________
Pluralitas non est ponenda sine neccesitate
Pilot2519j is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2014, 05:22 PM   #14
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Chicago
Posts: 6
Thanks to all of you for your input . With your feedback and my driving desires I have a list of what I want:

Boxster - 2009 or newer; S package, PDK, and if it has a Chrono Package all the better. Now the fun part - finding one.

Thanks again
Wantsasportscar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2014, 05:26 PM   #15
Registered User
 
heliguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 1,111
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pilot2519j View Post
I concur with the suggestion of the S model over the plain model. If you are concerned with speed the S is the answer but the anecdotal data reveal that the speed factor is negated by the size of the speeding ticket and restrictive speeds everywhere in this country. The brakes is another issue that will trump the speed factor. IN my S the brakes stop on a dime and it sure nice to use them and know of the great job they do. Any kind ot modification you do in a Boxster costs plenty of $$$$$$$$$$$$ so the answer is opt for the S model since it will cost you a tidy fortune to upgrade the base to the S specs. In any event I am sure you will enjoy whchever you decide to buy. Good luck!!!!

What's with your username?
heliguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2014, 08:10 AM   #16
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Chicago
Posts: 6
Smile

After a fun few weeks I found the car. What I found in my search: Manual is the way to go; check everything - PPI, etc. as new as I could afford and stuck to my budget; compromise is good when it all works out.

New owner of a 2009 Boxster with less than 10,000 miles.

Time for some summer driving!
Wantsasportscar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2014, 08:22 AM   #17
Registered User
 
jsceash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,466
Garage
That's sounds great congrats! This require a picture though.

__________________
2003 Black 986. modified for Advanced level HPDE and open track days.
* 3.6L LN block, 06 heads, Carrillo H rods, IDP with 987 intake, Oil mods, LN IMS. * Spec II Clutch, 3.2L S Spec P-P FW. * D2 shocks, GT3 arms & and links, Spacers front and rear * Weight reduced, No carpet, AC deleted, Remote PS pump, PS pump deleted. Recaro Pole position seats, Brey crouse ext. 5 point harness, NHP sport exhaust
jsceash is offline   Reply With Quote
Post Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:33 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page