08-25-2013, 11:56 AM
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Who knew that Porsche made plane engines?
Saw this in the aviation section of the "Deutsches Museum" in Munich last week
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_PFM_3200
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08-25-2013, 12:31 PM
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not me- neat!
was that sputter?
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08-25-2013, 12:49 PM
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Fitted with single row IMS bearing!
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08-25-2013, 01:29 PM
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I like the old Porsche tractors.
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08-25-2013, 01:36 PM
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08-25-2013, 02:02 PM
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Nothing quite like having your IMS let loose at 15000 ft.
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08-25-2013, 02:31 PM
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Engine Surgeon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark_T
Nothing quite like having your IMS let loose at 15000 ft.
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That engine has a plain bearing supported IMS (layshaft). They don't fail.
I'd fly behind a Mezger engine, no problem.
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08-25-2013, 06:02 PM
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The air frame and cowling don't look bad either!
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08-25-2013, 07:31 PM
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Needs 11 inch wheels !
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08-25-2013, 08:08 PM
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Mooney used a Porsche motor for awhile:
Mooney PFM (Porsche Flug Motor)
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08-25-2013, 09:31 PM
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Limbach aircraft engines are made from aircooled Porsche engine parts and vw parts.
Ifly with a 2000cc Limbach.
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08-25-2013, 09:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jb92563
Limbach aircraft engines are made from aircooled Porsche engine parts and vw parts.
Ifly with a 2000cc Limbach.
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16v twin plug ??
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08-26-2013, 05:36 AM
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I have one.
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08-26-2013, 07:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian c
16v twin plug ??
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Nope, 12v single plug in a Grob 109
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08-26-2013, 08:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave S.
I like the old Porsche tractors.
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Sure...
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08-26-2013, 09:10 AM
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Theoretical propagandist
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Danger
Needs 11 inch wheels !
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Do you think they will fit???
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08-26-2013, 09:20 AM
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jakesbox
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Johnny Danger
Needs 11 inch wheels !
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Are you sure with the right offsets that you couldnt slap 19's on there?
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08-26-2013, 03:44 PM
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I believe porsche put a flat six turbo engine
in a 182 skylane back in the mid/late 80's. I am not sure that it ever saw large scale prodution but do remember a magazine article comparison of the plane vs a 930 turbo I believe.
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08-26-2013, 09:02 PM
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Kapua
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now i gotta look it up...
i thought i knew mostly everything about porsche but i did not know that thank you i guess you learn something new everyday eh!?
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08-26-2013, 11:12 PM
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The Porsche Mooney was a DISMAL failure, for a variety of reasons. Nevermind the fact that it wasn't commercially viable, the fact that Porsche couldn't possibly imagine that a bunch of Americans knew a thing about building an air cooled engine, they insisted on putting a cooling fan on the thing, pushing air BACK to FRONT. This single design element's immense cooling drag cost the aircraft at least 10 knots in cruise.
Sadly, the powerplant (along with its reduction gearbox) was heavier than the "stone age" engines it was intended to replace. They even fitted a composite prop to offset some of the weight.
The list goes on....
Everyone involved in General Aviation wishes that someone would develop a commercially viable modern engine, but at this point, it's going to be a JET-A burning diesel, not anything that burns gasoline if and when it happens.
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