has Porsche let us down?

[thom4782]

Jake: Now we're all curious. I was just talking this morning with my inde about replacing the IMSB in the next six months. Can't wait to hear about the new bearing...

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by thom4782

Jake: Now we're all curious. I was just talking this morning with my inde about replacing the IMSB in the next six months. Can't wait to hear about the new bearing...

In work since well before 2009... Its the true solution to the problem.

This one is a lot different than the retrofit arrangements as we are not selling it direct to the public for DIY installation. Cost is almost exactly twice as much as the standard retrofit, but it never needs future service, replacement or attention.

[Jager]

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

In work since well before 2009... Its the true solution to the problem.

This one is a lot different than the retrofit arrangements as we are not selling it direct to the public for DIY installation. Cost is almost exactly twice as much as the standard retrofit, but it never needs future service, replacement or attention.

For 997-1 and 997-2 engines?

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by Jager

For 997-1 and 997-2 engines?

Details will be shared in Panorama in January 2013.

[Sanford_yee]

Jake...why not have the story told on 60 minutes? Sounds like the real reason is because you won't be able to profit financially....

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by Sanford_yee

Jake...why not have the story told on 60 minutes? Sounds like the real reason is because you won't be able to profit financially....

Another hater..
Trust me, sharing would have been much more lucrative than choosing not to.. I have also chosen not to be an expert witness on more than one occasion.

Look at what happened when 60 minutes covered 3 wheelers and CJ5 Jeeps..

[Ghostrider 310]

I don't think it's hate as much as misplaced frustration Jake, after all the current solutions are so cost prohibitive you really have to think hard about the endeavor. It's safe to assume based on past performance that this new bulletproof solution is not going to arrive at a cost effective price point.

[Perfectlap]

Originally Posted by Sanford_yee

Jake...why not have the story told on 60 minutes? Sounds like the real reason is because you won't be able to profit financially....

I knew someone who was friends with a director at the Supreme Court. The director invited us to have lunch at their famous cafeteria after a personal tour of the chambers. Very nice. Over lunch someone brought up 60 Minutes. His whole mood went sour in two seconds.
He said that if any of us were ever in a position to be visited by their reporters to immediately lock the door and ignore their calls. Lots of bad things to say about their ethics and integrity after they apparently tried to do a story on the Court. "their only goal is to make you look stupid or corrupt"

Personally, a story about Boxsters with exploding engines would really hurt resale without anything getting accomplished. Bad press is not going to hurt Porsche one bit. They're selling sedans and SUVs to Chinese billionaires who could care less.
Fewer folks buying Boxsters and Carreras would be bad for everyone. That being said if you do by one and don't immediately address the IMS I think you have to live with the consequences. Neither would I put off the IMS swap until the clutch wore out. Do it as soon as you get the car. The savings of putting off the clutch repair can cost you too dearly to be worth the gamble. Any mildly experienced Porsche mechanic can do this job in a day. My indy told me they've done like nearly 400 or something. Sounds like a standard part of the clutch job now.

[1olddude]

Yes but tell me what the failure rate is for the LN ceramic bearing? What kind of odds are there that the new bearing won't fail? I sometimes wonder if the vocal minority makes this problem seem worse than it really is. My 02 S now has 13500 miles on the odometer and I have a hard time throwing $1500 bucks toward something that doesn't guaranty the replacement bearing won't toast my engine anyway. I know there is money to be made the more the fear rages on with no clear numbers to tell us one way or another. It's a crapshoot for sure and I guess I am a riverboat gambler. To be honest, my 2005 Jeep Wrangler has caused me more lost sleep than my S. That Jeep is a money pit but a fun vehicle for what it was meant to do. Maintenance is a huge factor in keeping an automobile on the road for the long haul. I have a 1975 GMC pickup truck that is still going strong with only regular maintenance over all those years and yes, I know, 37 years is a long time to keep a vehicle and I am damn old.

[thom4782]

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

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This one is a lot different than the retrofit arrangements as we are not selling it direct to the public for DIY installation. Cost is almost exactly twice as much as the standard retrofit, but it never needs future service, replacement or attention.

Jake: What kind of service or attention might the current IMSB retrofit require. I was under the impression that after the retrofit was installed the odds of an IMSB failure were close to zero and no further service or attention was needed. I am asking because I was planning to have my independent install the current retrofit in my 01S in the next month. I don't know if my IMSB is a single or dual row bearing. Thanks

[rule1]

Originally Posted by Jake Raby

In work since well before 2009... Its the true solution to the problem.

This one is a lot different than the retrofit arrangements as we are not selling it direct to the public for DIY installation. Cost is almost exactly twice as much as the standard retrofit, but it never needs future service, replacement or attention.

So when will this be available? I am considering having a retrofit done by my mechanic (RennsportKC) in Grandview, MO. If I wait will I be able to have them do this or are you the only one to do this new fix? Any advice would be great.

Thanks, Jarrett

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by rule1

So when will this be available? I am considering having a retrofit done by my mechanic (RennsportKC) in Grandview, MO. If I wait will I be able to have them do this or are you the only one to do this new fix? Any advice would be great.

Thanks, Jarrett

A major distributor has already placed a huge order and will have the first units in hand in February and begin to distribute them to shops across North America and Europe.

We are accepting sign ups for the procedure carried out at our facility now.

I think I know this IMS SOlutions design. If it is what I think it is, I had a chat with one of the developers and it represents a bulletproof permanent solution to IMS bearing failure.

Then you would have had to spoken to me or Charles Navarro personally as we are the inventors and developers of the IMS Solution; no other individuals or companies have been involved. The only outsiders that know about the details are those who have purchased the unit and currently have it installed into their engines. A few members of the media have saw it, held it and have been blown away by it.

[Jaxonalden]

When are you going to reveal and let us know the cost of the "Solution"?

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by Jaxonalden

When are you going to reveal and let us know the cost of the "Solution"?

We plan to release the technology to the public in Panorama first..

I have had a newsletter that includes the pictures and parts break downs ready to distribute for a while.. It's all I can do to refrain from doing so as we do not want to let the flood gates open until our distributor has units in hand.. Other than installs we are pretty much done selling direct at retail.

The Solution installed at Flat 6 is 4,195.00 including pre-evaluation, a full clutch kit, IMSS kit, RMS, post evaluation and all associated labor and incidentals. It's a flat fee with no variables or options.

The IMSS is only for single row shafts, the technology is not being applied to dual row shafts.

[Steve Tinker]

The IMSS is only for single row shafts, the technology is not being applied to dual row shafts.[/QUOTE]

Jake....
Do I read this correctly as available for the IMS single row bearing engines and not the dual row bearing engines??
Or am I confused (again).....

[recycledsixtie]

Trying to see something positive in the situation here . I would think that 2nd hand Porsches are cheaper to buy if they have the originial ims bearings in. People like me are not prepared to buy a new Porsche and therefore go out on the limb to buy a 2nd hand Porsche which can implode for many reasons. An ims scare can be enough to drive away many prospective buyers but it has not deterred me. My sympathy goes out to anybody who has had an ims failure. But in all fairness it is buyer beware
especially when the warranty is over. There is little doubt that the Boxster is relatively cheap used because there is a perception that they are high maintenance cars and can be really expensive if the engine lets go.

It is indeed great now that if your engine implodes you have choices, fix it, sell it as a roller or just buy another used one. It is a buyers market, especially here in the middle of winter!

[Ghostrider 310]

I don't think that is why they are cheap. The cars are affordable because they didn't sticker that high to begin with and are now over a decade old. They have survived in plentiful numbers and are too new to be collectible. Most potential buyers just assume the car will be dependable as most car owners don't know squat about their car's technology or engines. I could tell you very little about the Escape engine other than it being twin overhead cam and dependable and I'm an enthusiast of cars. Some people just love driving Porsche's and that is where the love affair ends, not all want to jump into the car and wrench on it. Those of us who have know the pitfalls, how to save money and when to bail on a repair that cost more than the car is worth.