04-26-2015, 09:19 AM
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WALDMEISTER
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Originally Posted by Fyeganeh
Well I am the original owner of my 2000 Boxster that I got it in December 1999. There is no way I would sell it - to me it was a classic the day I bought it. Most of the people on these boards are second to fifth owners and they have gotten the car for a steal - which is great. But in some ways they underestimate its potential value and are willing to sell it at a low price to move on especially since they got it at a reasonable price. Given inflation and the number of Boxters dying off there is no doubt that in 10-15 years the price of an old Boxster will be the same or higher than what it is selling for today. Would you have thought in 1965 that the average car would be selling for 25000-35000 in 2013? What will the average car sell for in 2050?
If you were to buy a new Boxster today - the first year of ownership - depreciation would cost you 9000. The same for the next 2-3 years. So if you buy an old Boxster and it lasts 3 years, you are already ahead 18,000. I haven't driven a new one but I doubt it's that much better. So when someone sells it for 8000, from my perspective they are losing sight of its value. In the end, these cars will be scrapped because the owner won't want to put in the money to maintain it. That will create scarcity.
Will it go for more than a 993 - probably never, but might a 986 go for more than a 996 - you never know - if you guys scrap enough of them - maybe I'll find out in 20 years.... 
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Original owner myself, November 2000 MY01...exactly my words/thoughts! My 986 was a classic to me the day I picked it up in Zuffenhausen 
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04-26-2015, 06:26 AM
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Will the 987 Boxsters become classics?
If boxsters were made in the 80s with respective power and comparability to a mr2 turbo they likely wouldn't be too collectible today. They'd fetch something inbetween a clean 944 and a clean 928. Around 10-20k honestly no different than what they are worth now.
However due to when the boxster was produced, as it is currently reaching the start of the appreciation curve, Porsche is the producer of the most electric car models of any auto maker if you count the 918. Porsche may be one of the last companies making naturally aspirated, manual gear shift, models, but they are quickly turning to turbos. (981 spyder may be the next 914-8!)
So the point is. The boxster is starting to creep up in value, and simultaneously. It may be the first water cooled Porsche's, but it's also one of the last naturally aspirated manual, no traction control cars.
I actually think a clean 2.5 boxster may be the best bet for the future. Due to this assumption, I think powered up 981s that still have a flat 6 particularly a larger one with minimal technical aids will be worth something. But I also think the 986 has a great future. Public opinion on boxsters and caymans are changing, we arnt the only ones that think we might would take one over a 911. Let's just hope opinion builds enough before the cars become 4 cylinders.
Last edited by BIGJake111; 04-26-2015 at 09:11 AM.
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04-26-2015, 06:49 AM
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Public opinion on boxsters and caymans are changing, we arnt the only ones that think we might would take one over a 911.
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I've thought myself about changing the 986 for a 911, maybe a 996, but really, what for. from the doors forward it's the same as the 986, same engine, gearbox and the boxster being mid engined handles excellently.
I think that will also be a plus point for the 986. it's the same as a 996 911, but better !
People have woken up to the fact, for all the old claims, 'it's not a real porsche is it' to realise.. yes.. it is !
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04-26-2015, 07:34 AM
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It depends on your definition of "classic." Are we comparing the 986 /7 to Bugatti, Dusenberg, XK120 Jag? If so, I don't think our cars will ever attain those values or that rarified honor.
Maybe a better term is "collectible." I'm sure that any look at the 2030 Hemmings will find 986's and people will be paying good money for good examples while still enjoying them for their many wonderful attributes.
Another term we need to consider is "valuable." Looking at a current Hemmings I see cars that I love, owned, and drove in my youth - TR3, MG T's, A and B, Austin Healy Sprite and 3000, 356, etc. as both collectible and valuable (at many different levels depending on condition, mileage, originality, etc.
Getting back to the question, my bet is that the 986 and 987 will be about equal in collectability and value, much like the model-progression of MG TC, TD, TF, A, B or TR 2, 3, 4 - affordable collectibles.
As for me, I bought a 2000 986 S last year with just 10,000 miles in pristine condition with all maintenance documented, stored it for the winter, plan on keeping up with all maintenance as needed, and keep it as original and pristine as I can while enjoying the driving experience of using it as a piece of transportation I truly enjoy for about 1000 miles per month. It is a "usable classic" to me and I intend on keeping it for as long as I can get in and out of it without causing my back to go out.
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04-26-2015, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by greg9ball
Will the 987 Boxster become classics?
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Classic - yes, if you are willing to wait long enough.
Collectable - no, not ever.
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04-26-2015, 09:48 AM
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I can think of three Boxsters/Cayman that may have a shot of becoming a collectible classic. Not just classic.
1. Boxster Spyder: they are unique from all other Boxsters, limited in numbers and great track car. The manual top might actually be a big plus in the future.
2. As BigJake mentioned earlier, a clean first year production Boxster.
3. Cayman Sport in rare color and options. How many of you ever seen one or e en heard of one? Hudker Boxster has a nice one in green. These are very rare and was geared for track use.
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04-27-2015, 07:37 AM
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Given that all future Porsche boxsters (and maybe all Porsches) will be turbo'd 4s and 6s, the current and previous gen boxsters might become more desirable....but who knows.
Personally, I don't care. I didn't buy my car to have it sit in the garage and appreciate in value. I bought it to drive and hear the angry flat6 wail past 4000rpm.
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04-27-2015, 07:57 AM
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IMHO, once all the baby Boomers die off, there will be a huge surplus of "Classic" Porsches that the Boomer generation grew to love an covet.
Surplus+lack of appeal = Worthless
The following generations seem to care less for the "Race" heritage cars and like the SUV types better.
So as any investment goes theres boom and bust.
The Boom is currently here with the retiring Boomers picking up the cars they love to enjoy before its too late for them. They have the money so cost is no problem.
In 30 years all the Boomers will be dead and along with it the value of those classic cars, which will also be 60 years old by then.
Enjoy what you've got now and don't worry about the value of "Classics"
If you love it, is all that matters, no matter how gorgeous or ugly it may be.
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04-28-2015, 06:53 PM
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who cares? drive them as much as you can and enjoy them while they last. I just watched a sci fi movie a couple of nights ago where society longevity is based on life credits and when you run out of credit you die. One of the characters purchased some sort of Boxer and the sales person said the price included delivery so it could be put on display like an ornament, the buyer said, "I don't want to display it, I want to drive it!".  I have three vintage 1920's Ford Model T's, they are sort of classic but I drive them all when I can. 
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