Shortlived Boxster engines survey

[Paul]

Porsche's new design of our motors has no liners, no IMS, and no crank carrier; very much like a 944 motor. (From a tech session at this year's Parade.)

[chitowndad]

I know I should know the answer to this question but what year did they redesign the Boxster engine to remove the IMS etc., 2005?

-Steve

[Paul]

2009 as far as I know.

[dbw]

I bought my first Porsche - 2004 Boxster with 35000km - a couple of months ago. Local one owner car bought and serviced at the dealership I purchased from. Love the car but concerned about the potential for total engine destruction. If it did not have the 2 year cpo warranty I probably would not have bought it. When the cpo warranty has run its course I'll have to think long and hard whether I want to keep it. Dave

[Lawdevil]

Originally Posted by chitowndad

I know I should know the answer to this question but what year did they redesign the Boxster engine to remove the IMS etc., 2005?

-Steve

THe IMS went away with the 2009 MY

[flame011409]

Add me to the list. 2005 with 31,000 miles and just out of warantee. Porsche came through though and put a new engine in it. I had $850 out of pocket to diassemble the dead engine to make sure it was in fact, dead. Which it was. New engine purrs and pulls harder than the original.

Death was caused by intermediate shaft failure.

[Quickurt]

Exactly why my Porsche mechanic buddy told me if I didn't buy a certified Box from my local dealer, he'd come to Jax and kick my ass!! Mine is covered until 4/2012 and/or another 69k miles.

[PartialFish]

All you guys on here telling people with blown engines to "live with it" are just whistling in the dark. My '05 went out with 29,000 miles on it and the Porsche shop wants $17,000 to fix it. Anyone know a good indie mechanic in Memphis or St. Louis?

[jbs986]

Originally Posted by PartialFish

All you guys on here telling people with blown engines to "live with it" are just whistling in the dark. My '05 went out with 29,000 miles on it and the Porsche shop wants $17,000 to fix it. Anyone know a good indie mechanic in Memphis or St. Louis?

I here you dude, I love my Boxster but the motors in are cars SUCK,and God forbid if you criticize Porsche on this board for the M96 motor that thay have been using in there cars for over 10 years.

If you do criticize or complain about it, some members on here will tell you to man up or do'nt cry like a little girl or better yet, shut up and just sell your car on Ebay or craigslist.

I Wonder how many of them will pay the $17,000.00 to have your car fixed for you with the same piece of JUNK motor with more then 20 desingn flaws in it?

I am afaid you have 4 choices,

1, Sell the car as is.

2, have dealer put new/re-built motorfor big $$$.

3,have Indy shop put a used one in.

4, send it to Jake at;Flat 6 Innovations and have them put one of their motors in it and drive it forever.

Sorry about your motor blowing,but all M96 motors will eventually suffer the same fate as yours.

Good luck dude.

[Spinnaker]

Originally Posted by PartialFish

All you guys on here telling people with blown engines to "live with it" are just whistling in the dark. My '05 went out with 29,000 miles on it and the Porsche shop wants $17,000 to fix it. Anyone know a good indie mechanic in Memphis or St. Louis?

Call Flat6Innovations and see what they have to say.
"Questions? Call 706.865.1963 or email info@flat6innovations."

You will probably get a better engine at less cost than from the Porsche shop.

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by PartialFish

All you guys on here telling people with blown engines to "live with it" are just whistling in the dark. My '05 went out with 29,000 miles on it and the Porsche shop wants $17,000 to fix it. Anyone know a good indie mechanic in Memphis or St. Louis?

Or west coast truck is inbound at the end of this week.. He'll be traveling down I 40 with two more Boxsters on the back.. Yours can join them!

We could do our CPO or a full upgrade. My price for a full upgrade is generally 18K installed/ dyno tuned/ fully broken in/turnkey with a 1 year unlimited mileage warranty... The warranty is only offered if we carry out the install.

I have 7 cars on site now with catastrophic failures, the highest mileage of any of then is only 47K.. Mileage really, doesn't matter at all.. We received a failure call yesterday from someone who was sure his 18,000 mile car had to be a record for the lowest mileage failed engine. He seemed a bit disappointed when I told him our record for a low mileage failure was 1800 miles.

More and more people who know about the IMS retrofit being available, but are not sucking it up and upgrading are having issues that could be totally avoided by the application of preventive upgrades.

[seningen]

Originally Posted by PartialFish

All you guys on here telling people with blown engines to "live with it" are just whistling in the dark. My '05 went out with 29,000 miles on it and the Porsche shop wants $17,000 to fix it. Anyone know a good indie mechanic in Memphis or St. Louis?

I've read where 05 owners have had their engines replaced by their Porsche dealership.
I also personally know an 05 that has had the same done.

try harder with your local guys,

maybe you'll get lucky.

mike

[Jake Raby]

Lots of people can afford to buy a Boxster and even a 911 these days... But many of those can't afford to properly maintain or repair it.

Always think about that...

[mikefocke]

may be a bit more involved with their cars than the average brand owners. So they tend to be connected to each other and the way we do that these days is on the net.

You also see lots of postings about other problems. How many times has the ignition switch come up? Or rear tire wear? RMS? But it is the last 18 months when the IMS failures suddenly became identified and we started talking about them. It helped to have an article in Excellence. And a rebuilder willing to talk in some of the forums.

I bought my car third hand, paid less than 40% of the original cost, its 8 years old and 56k miles. Why does Porsche owe me anything?

Stuff happens. Deal with it. If you can solve the problem with money, on the scale of things it isn't such a big problem, is it? It is only a car, not a family member.

And if you bought it not knowing stuff happens to any brand of car...well then just shame on you. It isn't like info on possible failures isn't publicly available for the price of a search.

Only thing wrong about my Boxster is there is a half inch of ice on the roads and I have summer tires.

[hatch1517]

We own performance cars thats part of the fun (And you get nothin for nothing).I have had my 97 for two years drive it every day the only cost is fuel/service front engine mont and what i have chosen to spend.I would have to say from my experiance a reliable car.
One problem i see here some of these cars are doing only 5000 miles per year average.I have a motorcycle it has seal problems and brake failier every year after winter storage guess what the vtx1800 is a reliable bike so they say.

[baileymc]

Well I don't know too much about Porsche's but I'm learning as I go. My Boxster is a 1998 have a few issues but still not a big deal as you can see in thr threads I posted. I bought it last Sept used and it is a great car, I guess nothing it perfect but someday I'll buy a newer one that's for sure!!