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Old 08-02-2007, 07:30 AM   #1
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from what i researched, anything over 6k is for looks and not gaining, but loosing light.
"normal" look is 4000-5000 range. 3000 is yellow, 4000 (or just above) is probably maximum white light output, 5000 may look a little cleaner without a significant drop in light output, 6000 will be noticeable bluish, and start to reduce the amount of light you'll see. As for the 8000+ range, I'm not sure its a true number anyway, but its more if you just want something really blue/purplish, and there will be a significant reduction in how much white light you'll see.

although, i would love to have 3000 as well

BTW, pteam, did you notice that your passenger side flickers and then turns on, before the other one even has any lights?
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Old 08-02-2007, 07:34 AM   #2
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When you guys go out tonight. Look at all the HID factory lights of all the other cars. You will notice Audi, BMW, Cadillac, and anybody elses you see almost all have a bit of purple if not alot of purple (notice the purple in the factory HID lambo lights above) and are very blue. None of these HIDs are anywhere close to white.
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Old 08-02-2007, 08:06 AM   #3
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When you guys go out tonight. Look at all the HID factory lights of all the other cars. You will notice Audi, BMW, Cadillac, and anybody elses you see almost all have a bit of purple if not alot of purple (notice the purple in the factory HID lambo lights above) and are very blue. None of these HIDs are anywhere close to white.
None of the companies you quoted here use the temperatures you are discussing. perhaps the manufacturer/vendor you bought from is giving you higher temperature ratings to increase sales?



# Anything over 5750 K and human vision and depth perception is significantly reduced
# Anything over 6000 K and the actual lighting output/power reduces exponentially
# Many companies claim to offer 8000- 12000 K Bulbs ...if this were true the headlight would shine DARK BLUE TO EVEN DARKER PURPLE !!


i won't argue with your lights, your pictures look great. i'm just wondering if your temperature scales are off because of some bad/false advertising.
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Old 08-02-2007, 08:45 AM   #4
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None of the companies you quoted here use the temperatures you are discussing. perhaps the manufacturer/vendor you bought from is giving you higher temperature ratings to increase sales?



# Anything over 5750 K and human vision and depth perception is significantly reduced
# Anything over 6000 K and the actual lighting output/power reduces exponentially
# Many companies claim to offer 8000- 12000 K Bulbs ...if this were true the headlight would shine DARK BLUE TO EVEN DARKER PURPLE !!


i won't argue with your lights, your pictures look great. i'm just wondering if your temperature scales are off because of some bad/false advertising.
Humara,

On that you could be correct. I dont know the actual scale. I only go by that they told me my lights are 10k , which is why I said in my above posts that any different brand could be totally different.

Also generally most people have said that 10k-12ks are purple. Well my 10k bulbs for my boxster are not purple at all but my lambo lights are purple and several HID companys I see on the road are purple, especially Audis. Purple means higher in temperature.

I also find it hard to belive that lamborghini and Audi, BMW are producing lights that are losing light output because they are purple. If that was the case I dont think they would make the temp that high, but almost every HID light I see at night has some purple in it. As I have stated before my purple lamborghini lights are a little bit (not much) brighter than my non purple HID Porsche lights.
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Old 08-02-2007, 11:02 AM   #5
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Humara,

On that you could be correct. I dont know the actual scale. I only go by that they told me my lights are 10k , which is why I said in my above posts that any different brand could be totally different.

Also generally most people have said that 10k-12ks are purple. Well my 10k bulbs for my boxster are not purple at all but my lambo lights are purple and several HID companys I see on the road are purple, especially Audis. Purple means higher in temperature.

I also find it hard to belive that lamborghini and Audi, BMW are producing lights that are losing light output because they are purple. If that was the case I dont think they would make the temp that high, but almost every HID light I see at night has some purple in it. As I have stated before my purple lamborghini lights are a little bit (not much) brighter than my non purple HID Porsche lights.
audi, bmw etc are not producing 10000k lights. the color you see is from the projector lenses. and you answered your own question. 10k-12k are purple. your 10k are not purple. using simple logic, we can conclude that your bulbs are not 10k.
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Cars on the road appear to have blue lights when compared to all the other halogens out there. Halogens are actually
yellowish, and that yellow makes xenons appear blue. I assure you, they're quite close to white.

And it's the projectors that produce a tinge of a violet color, and that's usually on the edges of the beam pattern
(like curved/angled glass create a prism).

It's hard to tell from a digital picture real life results. And when it comes to light and cameras, there are a lot of
factors to consider (white balancing, color correction, position/angle, etc.)
Side note, did you know digital cameras can pick up light the human eye can't see? Look at your digital camera's screen while aiming
your TV remote at it (while pressing a button).


I will say this, the old Porsches did seem to have a greenish tint to me. Those were among the first xenons out there.

I find it funny that many of the vendors show what the lights look like head on. What should matter is how it illuminates
from within the car.
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audi, bmw etc are not producing 10000k lights. the color you see is from the projector lenses. and you answered your own question. 10k-12k are purple. your 10k are not purple. using simple logic, we can conclude that your bulbs are not 10k.
Well you could be correct. Alot of people say that 12k and up are purple, and 10k are deep blue.

So what color / temp would you say the lambo lights are from the above picture? Note that the picture looks exactly how they look at night, its not distorted from the camera.
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Remember, the edges of the beam/pattern could have the prism effect... Coupled with the fact that the angle of
projection on the Lambo is so tight (due to how low the headlights are positioned), it looks like it has more violet
than what actually spills out on the road.

Did that make any sense?
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