IMS Solution... Price?

[Ckrikos]

All I would change from your explanation of each option, is that the LN IMSB doesn't have multiple wear points. Its actually 5x stronger than the Porsche IMSB. There is an inherent fault in the motor design that causes these bearings to wear. There are other wear points in the motor (23 other areas) and the slow failure of any of these other areas may quicken the failure of the IMSB by introducing foreign objects into the bearing race.

JD, I didn't realize you had $40K in mods done to your car. Given that information I might send the car to Jake. My car is a bone stock 02 2.7 that I have owned since its arrival to the USA. I have $44K in acquisition costs and $3K in mods (half of which I can easily remove and sell). I was thinking of buying a motor from Jake, but decided to save the money instead as I don't really need more of a performance car given the amount of time I drive it. Instead I decided to service it and cross my fingers that nothing else breaks after the LN IMSB is installed as I think the frequency of other failures is quite low.

[Jake Raby]

The single row bearing has had a 50K recommended service interval since it was released, that has never changed and is stated on the LN website, where it has been since 2008. The fact that some people didn't read this doesn't surprise me. The fact that some people did read it, but improperly perceived it also does not surprise me.

I don't think that most of you realize that these units will be sold through your local shops in the future through their parts supply houses. The fact is during the initial swarm of installs we are only carrying out installations here (at Flat 6 Innovations), which means or at least the next 4-6 months no one else will have access to the technology. This is THE SAME thing that we did with the LN retrofit bearing when it was released as it is imperative that we use practical application experience to devise the installation directives and support programs for installers that will be tasked with the life of your engine. If they make one mistake, its our reputation that pays for it. I do not take that lightly and it is absolutely imperative that we experience every complication/ challenge possible here before units are employed elsewhere. I won't lie, doing this also helps pay me back for the YEARS of development that have gone into this product here at my facility.

Doing things in this manner is not the simplest, nor the most lucrative, but it is the way that we avoid errors that lead to pissed off customers with issues. Installers of this technology will have more processes that must be carried out than the standard retrofit, because the unit must be fed with clean oil at initial start up and etc. The work must be done in an absolutely clean work area with no debris present and it must be treated more like engine surgery than any standard retrofit. What is "simple" to some people/ shops is actually really difficult.

Its this straight forward:
Take advantage of the technology now and have the same hands that carried out all the test work install the IMS Solution into your engine, or just wait until your local shop can get the units through their supply system.

The only choice that doesn't exist is DIY installations.

Or just utilize the classic retrofit that costs less money but is sold with a 50K mile service interval. Thats all.

As far as shipping cars, we have connections with PROVEN companies that we have worked with for years. We have ZERO local customers and everything comes in from out of state. I have tasked these same people with the tasks of moving my personal cars and have done so without any complications. One of our shippers (applewood Motorcar) usually hauls Boxster and 996s to us in the same haulers that are filled with new Maserati's, Ferraris and Lamborghini's inside of. Shipping is not difficult, in fact I have one employee that is tasked with those logistics as his primary task, he shipped one back to Massachusetts this morning and just picked another up from Florida a few minutes ago to replace it with. I wish everything was as simple as shipping vehicles.

[mountainman]

Jake, I am a little north of asheville, nc, probably 3 hours or less from you, and I have an 08 boxster S with 30K on it that I am not too worried about (IMS wise ), an 04 boxster S limited edition with 40K on it that I will probably want you to do the IMS solution on in the near future and an 02 C4 that already suffered an IMS failure at 46K miles leading to a new engine from the local dealership. I now have about 24K miles on the new engine and I have no idea what type bearing the new engine had in it when it was installed. Is there any way to tell from the serial number on the engine or is it just a change it anyway kind of thing. The engine was replaced about 2 1/2 years ago. thanks for any insight you can offer.

[Jake Raby]

Originally Posted by mountainman

Jake, I am a little north of asheville, nc, probably 3 hours or less from you, and I have an 08 boxster S with 30K on it that I am not too worried about (IMS wise ), an 04 boxster S limited edition with 40K on it that I will probably want you to do the IMS solution on in the near future and an 02 C4 that already suffered an IMS failure at 46K miles leading to a new engine from the local dealership. I now have about 24K miles on the new engine and I have no idea what type bearing the new engine had in it when it was installed. Is there any way to tell from the serial number on the engine or is it just a change it anyway kind of thing. The engine was replaced about 2 1/2 years ago. thanks for any insight you can offer.

That engine has the M97 bearing which is not serviceable at all. All new and reman engines provided post 2006 have the M97 bearing, even if they are M96 based.

Engine # ID in regard to bearing style/ application does not exist and the ones that are out there have proven to be absolutely inaccurate.

[mountainman]

Thanks Jake for the info. The access to info like that is one of the big advantages of this forum. I have found that getting information out of a dealer on issues like that is most difficult and frustrating. Not sure if they have limited knowledge or just are reluctant to share. I'll be in touch in a few weks to schedule the 04. Got to slowly prepare the wife so I don't also have to buy an additional $3500 worth of furniture.

[mikefocke]

You wouldn't be the first, my first Boxster cost me a mink coat ... not that she forced the issue but, since she had suggested I buy the Porsche I had been looking at for years, it was only right I suggest she buy the coat she always wanted.

When she is happy...