02-02-2013, 11:08 AM
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Engine Surgeon
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cleveland GA USA
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I am lucky.. My Wife wears the race suit in the family and loves Porsches more than I do!
:-)
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IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
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02-02-2013, 02:15 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Jackson Hole, Wyoming
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jake Raby
I am lucky.. My Wife wears the race suit in the family and loves Porsches more than I do!
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Is that possible  ?
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02-02-2013, 02:18 PM
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Engine Surgeon
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cleveland GA USA
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Originally Posted by Joe B
Is that possible  ?
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Its a reality. She isn't bad for an accountant, most of them don't hold multiple Land Speed Records in a 911.
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Jake Raby/www.flat6innovations.com
IMS Solution/ Faultless Tool Inventor
US Patent 8,992,089 &
US Patent 9,416,697
Developer of The IMS Retrofit Procedure- M96/ M97 Specialist
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02-05-2013, 12:10 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Jake, I have a 2000 Base with a manufacture date in late August of 1999. As I understand it, the 'IMS' solution is not available for the earlier twin row bearings; however, there is no way to tell whether my bearing is the older twin row, or the later single row without disassembly. If I order the IMS update assuming it to be twin row and my mechanic discovers on disassembly that is single row, I will need to have my car reassembled then shipped from Ontario, Canada to your shop for installation of the IMS Solution, then shipped back to Canada. Or am I missing something? In those circumstances, would the IMS update still be available if it turns out that I have the single row bearing?
Brad
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02-05-2013, 03:27 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sanford NC
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Aren't you supposed to take the trans off and look at the narrow/wide IMS flange seen in pictures here What IMS do I have? | IMS Retrofit to see if you have a single row or double row before ordering as the kits aren't returnable.
And assuming you aren't the original owner and thus could have a replacement engine you didn't know about, how long you've had the car could prevent you from having the third generation IMS or thrust you into the possibility of having one. You ID the 3rd generation by the 22mm nut.
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02-06-2013, 07:08 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Mike, I have bills from the original owner and the engine numbers match the body (to the extent that they would denote a very early 2.7) so I feel safe in concluding that the engine was not replaced. I agree that, as engine numbers are not reliable, one is supposed to disassemble to determine whether it is a dual or single bearing. In the past this was not a problem as the ceramic bearing was available for both. Now they are only available for the earlier (double) and hence, after disassembly by my mechanic, I can only order a bearing if I have an earlier d. If not, I need to have the car re-assembled and shipped (or the engine removed and it and the transmission shipped), to and from Ontario, Canada. Or am I missing something?
Brad
Last edited by southernstar; 06-05-2013 at 04:50 AM.
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02-06-2013, 10:23 AM
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1999 base
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Coral Springs FL
Posts: 1,617
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Originally Posted by southernstar
Mike, I have bills from the original owner and the engine numbers match the body (to the extent that they would denote a very early 2.7) so I feel safe in concluding that the engine was not replaced. I agree that, as engine numbers are not reliable, one is supposed to disassmble to determine whether it is a dual or single bearing. In the past this was not a problem as the ceramic bearing was available for both. Now they are only available for the earlier (double) and hence, after disassembly by my mechanic, I can only order a bearing if I have an earlier d. If not, I need to have the car re-assembled and shipped (or the engine removed and it and the transmission shipped), to and from Ontario, Canada. Or am I missing something?
Brad
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as far as i know, the ceramic bearing from LN is available in both the single and the double raw configuration.
order the bearing only after the flywheel was removed, and you can see which one you need.
the "final solution" is available only for the later style single row, and contently available only at flat6.
so this way or the other, your mechanic cant do the job for you (yet).
Last edited by Meir; 02-06-2013 at 10:29 AM.
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02-06-2013, 10:55 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: It's a kind of magic.....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by southernstar
Mike, I have bills from the original owner and the engine numbers match the body (to the extent that they would denote a very early 2.7) so I feel safe in concluding that the engine was not replaced. I agree that, as engine numbers are not reliable, one is supposed to disassmble to determine whether it is a dual or single bearing. In the past this was not a problem as the ceramic bearing was available for both. Now they are only available for the earlier (double) and hence, after disassembly by my mechanic, I can only order a bearing if I have an earlier d. If not, I need to have the car re-assembled and shipped (or the engine removed and it and the transmission shipped), to and from Ontario, Canada. Or am I missing something?
Brad
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Unfortunately, with a 2000-2001 car with the original engine, there is always some question which style bearing is in the car. That said, it is not that much of an issue to take the car apart and then overnight the correct unit. There is not much recourse to doing it this way, other than to buy both styles and try to return the unused unit.
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