02-07-2011, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JFP in PA
I just took a moment to look it up in my OEM manual set, and in Group 3, 30-1, page five under torque specs for dual mass flywheel, it says “25 Nm (19 Ft. Lb) plus 120 degree tightening angle”. As we kept this set current with all updates, I believe this is the most current info; yours may be from an earlier text.
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Thanks JFP , I must not have the updates, do you know where I can get those?
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02-07-2011, 07:14 PM
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Thanks JFP , I must not have the updates, do you know where I can get those?
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You can no longer get them; they went out of print when Porsche stopped printing the manual sets and switched to an electronic subscription system at the time of the advent of the PIWIS system. You may be able to find someone selling a print copy of the last updates somewhere on the web…….
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02-07-2011, 08:48 PM
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You can no longer get them; they went out of print when Porsche stopped printing the manual sets and switched to an electronic subscription system at the time of the advent of the PIWIS system. You may be able to find someone selling a print copy of the last updates somewhere on the web…….
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Thanks. BTW what do you think of either Mitchell or Alldata ? Do they have enough data to make it worthwhile. I believe Mitchell has an electronic manual for single car for around $29/yr and alldata has a similar offer for around $23/yre or 44 for 5 yrs
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02-08-2011, 11:07 AM
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Both are OK in general, but all these services have weak spots with any particular make, and Porsche is anything but an exception to that rule. While often hard to decipher, and totally dependant on hard to find and expensive specialty tools, the OEM manuals are still the best.
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02-08-2011, 12:05 PM
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Both are OK in general, but all these services have weak spots with any particular make, and Porsche is anything but an exception to that rule. While often hard to decipher, and totally dependant on hard to find and expensive specialty tools, the OEM manuals are still the best.
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I agree about the OEM manuals but it does not apply to the new cars I have a project that I'm working on and need the 09 Manual but cannot afford the $5k per year to access the electronic one.
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02-08-2011, 01:50 PM
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Well, they were offering a deal on subscription pricing, if you lease a PIWIS system, for $18,000 a year, they give you access to the manuals for $1,000.............
Seriously, this subscription nonsense is just another “intellectual property” doge designed to keep independents away from the cars, pure and simple. And I used to think that the 986 and 996 printed manual sets were overpriced at $2,300 (each) for the set….
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02-08-2011, 06:50 PM
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Well, they were offering a deal on subscription pricing, if you lease a PIWIS system, for $18,000 a year, they give you access to the manuals for $1,000.............
Seriously, this subscription nonsense is just another “intellectual property” doge designed to keep independents away from the cars, pure and simple. And I used to think that the 986 and 996 printed manual sets were overpriced at $2,300 (each) for the set….
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Gee what a deal, where do I sign up? You are dead on about keeping independents at bay.
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