08-10-2020, 06:34 PM
|
#81
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Tucson,az
Posts: 690
|
Sorry That's not a Rump statement that was a Fauci statement in the beginning or someone who thought they knew what they were talking about .
|
|
|
08-10-2020, 06:47 PM
|
#82
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: PA
Posts: 1,531
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by flmont
Sorry That's not a Rump statement that was a Fauci statement in the beginning or someone who thought they knew what they were talking about .
|
Try again, pal. Facts are a biotch, and so is video proof!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svrxYLvJYto
Well, at least you got the "someone who thought they knew what they were talking about" part right!
And here are other videos for your enjoyment!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv9sH5ptgRA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYnXBRo9TVA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvvD2EPOqaY
__________________
2002 Boxster Base - Arctic Silver - Tiptronic
2010 Subaru Forester
1980 Ford C-8000 Custom Cab Emergency-One Fire Truck
__________________
"I never lose. I either win or I learn." -Nelson Mandela
Last edited by piper6909; 08-11-2020 at 06:23 AM.
|
|
|
08-10-2020, 07:08 PM
|
#83
|
Who's askin'?
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Utah
Posts: 2,446
|
Piper6909 = post-bully.
;-)
Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
|
|
|
08-10-2020, 07:13 PM
|
#84
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Tucson,az
Posts: 690
|
Well ok ,..he repeated it,.
|
|
|
08-10-2020, 07:21 PM
|
#85
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Tucson,az
Posts: 690
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by piper6909
What a joke!
|
Still waiting for what was so funny
|
|
|
08-10-2020, 07:23 PM
|
#86
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: PA
Posts: 1,531
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by maytag
Piper6909 = post-bully.
;-)
Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk
|
haha! Facts are my weapons of choice! Locked and loaded, baby! I have a full arsenal!
__________________
2002 Boxster Base - Arctic Silver - Tiptronic
2010 Subaru Forester
1980 Ford C-8000 Custom Cab Emergency-One Fire Truck
__________________
"I never lose. I either win or I learn." -Nelson Mandela
Last edited by piper6909; 08-11-2020 at 06:20 AM.
|
|
|
08-10-2020, 07:26 PM
|
#87
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: PA
Posts: 1,531
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by flmont
Well ok ,..he repeated it,.
|
Nope, nobody else said it. Especially not Fauci. Rump was the only one who said it, unless someone was repeating Rump.
__________________
2002 Boxster Base - Arctic Silver - Tiptronic
2010 Subaru Forester
1980 Ford C-8000 Custom Cab Emergency-One Fire Truck
__________________
"I never lose. I either win or I learn." -Nelson Mandela
Last edited by piper6909; 08-11-2020 at 04:08 PM.
|
|
|
08-10-2020, 07:28 PM
|
#88
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: PA
Posts: 1,531
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by flmont
Still waiting for what was so funny
|
Nevermind, I'm trying to follow 78F350's suggestion to be kind.
__________________
2002 Boxster Base - Arctic Silver - Tiptronic
2010 Subaru Forester
1980 Ford C-8000 Custom Cab Emergency-One Fire Truck
__________________
"I never lose. I either win or I learn." -Nelson Mandela
|
|
|
08-10-2020, 09:36 PM
|
#89
|
Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Tucson,az
Posts: 690
|
Oh pls ..i can take it..
|
|
|
08-11-2020, 03:30 AM
|
#90
|
1998 Boxster Silver/Red
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: 92262
Posts: 2,915
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by flmont
,..I will agree this Virus is unique, But you cant wear a mask forever to protect yourself from the winds of a virus mask may slow it down but it wont stop it,Heat was suppose to kill it,I live in Tucson, Az way past 100 Deg's A day for weeks and the numbers went up,I don't trust the numbers, or the way all this Virus protection has been conducted, I.E. Symptoms : headache,muscle soreness, coughing, temperature, fatigue, stiffness, I get all of that with the common Flu, I just don't trust the Government to tell me what's best when they don't even know,its that simple for me,The Obama/Biden ticket,sure didn't create a very quick recovery from the housing bubble crash,I think they or Obama seen that as a way to Fundamentally change America as he so elegantly stated ( the way he wants it's).Once he benefitted from America's success ,.Law school,then to government,.He didn't want the same for ALL American's or he would have done what Trump has done,..open up the economy and cut taxes, and the regulations that only hurt America,..Trump is no secret Genius,.any politician that wants a successful country would do exactly what he did,.Iam sure Bernie and Cortez will be wonderful for PA,.If you can drive your car on seaweed..or Sunlight have fun
|
Well said. You're on the list (I'll get to that someday).
__________________
1998 Porsche Boxster
|
|
|
08-11-2020, 03:33 AM
|
#91
|
1998 Boxster Silver/Red
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: 92262
Posts: 2,915
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by flmont
George Floyd,..this is most certainly a shameful thing on those police officer's( no matter who's neck it was),That justice should be between Mr.Floyd's family and that Police department, period..It's not just cause to ruin other's livelihood, and property, It just goes to show how people are being raised and educated to hate everything in this country because they weren't handed success or taught respect for other's,.. it's said, You get out of life what you put into it ,Protesting is a way to be heard,.to change thing's, you actually need to make an effort in the proper direction,..8 yrs of Obama/Biden why wasn't there change, they complain the most !! and do nothing because they like to create chaos, How's that for another Political statement !
Soap box now folded up and put away ! ( My apologies to anyone I may have offended )
|
Offended anyone? Oh, you mean Pipe! "That" anyone? Screw him.
__________________
1998 Porsche Boxster
|
|
|
08-11-2020, 06:52 AM
|
#92
|
Registered User
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Michigan
Posts: 104
|
The data on this whole topic is still so spread between some true and some false that it's almost impossible to accurately decipher.
Example; our facility closed several units in preparation for a surge in COVID cases that never happened. The units remained empty for months. Hospitalizations for our system never broke 100 with ICU cases in the mid 20's. Those closings resulted in the loss of 800 employees.
Detroit; the hospitals in downtown Detroit saw a significant influx of cases. Poorer population and a higher than average co morbidity rate played a role in that. Field hospitals were established at both COBO and Showplace in Novi. Each site was built to house 1000 cases per. At peak there were 2 cases transferred to COBO. Hospitals outside of downtown were virtual ghost towns with decreases in patient volumes.
As it sits now, testing has steadily increased thus resulting in more positive results being returned. "Cast a wider net, catch more fish." The real data that matters is not in the positive tests, it is in the hospitalization rates. For the most part overall hospitalizations are down, however, there are some locations now seeing an increase.
If we were to approach flu testing in the same manner that we are testing for COVID I believe that the positive result numbers would be very similar.
One comment on hospital morgues. It is easy to paint a grim picture using volume overwhelming the hospital morgue. In general these locations are small and not intended for volume. (I think we can hold 8 and we are a larger facility.) If you have any number of ICU cases that are critical related to COVID and then you add in the normal deaths in a hospital or incoming traumas. It's easy to run out of space.
After Katrina the DMORT team set up in Baton Rouge had 30 refrigerated semis on site for the same purpose.
|
|
|
08-11-2020, 08:05 AM
|
#93
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: PA
Posts: 1,531
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2ata
The data on this whole topic is still so spread between some true and some false that it's almost impossible to accurately decipher.
Example; our facility closed several units in preparation for a surge in COVID cases that never happened. The units remained empty for months. Hospitalizations for our system never broke 100 with ICU cases in the mid 20's. Those closings resulted in the loss of 800 employees.
Detroit; the hospitals in downtown Detroit saw a significant influx of cases. Poorer population and a higher than average co morbidity rate played a role in that. Field hospitals were established at both COBO and Showplace in Novi. Each site was built to house 1000 cases per. At peak there were 2 cases transferred to COBO. Hospitals outside of downtown were virtual ghost towns with decreases in patient volumes.
As it sits now, testing has steadily increased thus resulting in more positive results being returned. "Cast a wider net, catch more fish." The real data that matters is not in the positive tests, it is in the hospitalization rates. For the most part overall hospitalizations are down, however, there are some locations now seeing an increase.
If we were to approach flu testing in the same manner that we are testing for COVID I believe that the positive result numbers would be very similar.
One comment on hospital morgues. It is easy to paint a grim picture using volume overwhelming the hospital morgue. In general these locations are small and not intended for volume. (I think we can hold 8 and we are a larger facility.) If you have any number of ICU cases that are critical related to COVID and then you add in the normal deaths in a hospital or incoming traumas. It's easy to run out of space.
After Katrina the DMORT team set up in Baton Rouge had 30 refrigerated semis on site for the same purpose.
|
It's nice to have some insight from someone who is in the trenches. Thank you.
The one thing I'd like to add to "Cast a wider net, catch more fish" is that the fish are still there, regardless what size net you cast. Casting the net does not create the fish.
__________________
2002 Boxster Base - Arctic Silver - Tiptronic
2010 Subaru Forester
1980 Ford C-8000 Custom Cab Emergency-One Fire Truck
__________________
"I never lose. I either win or I learn." -Nelson Mandela
|
|
|
08-11-2020, 08:13 AM
|
#94
|
Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,492
|
I have one question...
What the hell happened to the Killer Hornets?
|
|
|
08-11-2020, 08:54 AM
|
#95
|
98 Arctic silver 986
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Upstate, NY
Posts: 1,441
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by dghii
I have one question...
What the hell happened to the Killer Hornets?
|
I heard they all caught the Covid 19 and died. I can't remember where I saw it....probably the internet.
|
|
|
08-11-2020, 08:58 AM
|
#96
|
1998 Boxster Silver/Red
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: 92262
Posts: 2,915
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by piper6909
Nevermind, I'm trying to follow 78F350's suggestion to be kind.
|
Oh, you are kind. Kind of a...
lol
__________________
1998 Porsche Boxster
|
|
|
08-11-2020, 09:08 AM
|
#97
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: PA
Posts: 1,531
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starter986
Oh, you are kind. Kind of a...
lol
|
I may be kind of a ...., but you're totally a ....!
Your turn.
__________________
2002 Boxster Base - Arctic Silver - Tiptronic
2010 Subaru Forester
1980 Ford C-8000 Custom Cab Emergency-One Fire Truck
__________________
"I never lose. I either win or I learn." -Nelson Mandela
|
|
|
08-11-2020, 09:51 AM
|
#98
|
1998 Boxster Silver/Red
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: 92262
Posts: 2,915
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by piper6909
|
I've got nothing... but I accept the compliment.
Have a good day!
__________________
1998 Porsche Boxster
|
|
|
08-11-2020, 09:55 AM
|
#99
|
NewUserName
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Delaware
Posts: 101
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2ata
The data on this whole topic is still so spread between some true and some false that it's almost impossible to accurately decipher.
|
Is it? Don't you agree that NY and adjacent states, led by Cuomo (who I had NOT been a fan of) showed what worked and ought to have been done nationally and Georgia and Florida in particular show bad management???
Compare the curves of Europe to that of the US and it is clear we're not doing well.
As to testing showing more cases - that logic would say we should stop doing mammograms to lessen breast cancer.
In covid deaths, "We're No 1" is not where we should be.
Last edited by DoninDel; 08-11-2020 at 11:12 AM.
Reason: grammar
|
|
|
08-11-2020, 10:49 AM
|
#100
|
Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: PA
Posts: 1,531
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starter986
I've got nothing... but I accept the compliment.
Have a good day!
|
That's exactly how I took it and how I meant it!
__________________
2002 Boxster Base - Arctic Silver - Tiptronic
2010 Subaru Forester
1980 Ford C-8000 Custom Cab Emergency-One Fire Truck
__________________
"I never lose. I either win or I learn." -Nelson Mandela
|
|
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is On
|
|
|
All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:10 AM.
| |