thoughts on Spoiler
 

I like this spoiler a lot, ebay item number is 120094320296, but have a few concerns. It "looks" very close to the Cayman spoiler, however does it function like one? Is the aero good as the factory spoiler. I have an 02 Box S.



Anyone have this one, or similar?


Aero experts?

You will need to post a link to get a response.

I think he was talking about this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Boxster-Turbo-Style-rear-Wing-Spoiler-PAINTED-Bolt-On_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33638QQihZ002QQitemZ 120093590678

I have that spoiler on my car and I'm very happy with the look. Be careful who you buy from. There are a couple of members here who bought the same spoiler but the quality wasn't very good. Their spoilers have already begun to crack at the base attachment points. Mine came from Performance Products and I've had no problem with it.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k2...1/DSC00188.jpg

Yep, he is right. That is where I bought mine from. And mine cracked after a few months. They told me that there was a bad batch that went out and that the problem has now been fixed. You can take you chances, BUT BEWARE! I BELIEVE THIS SPOILER WAS THE CAUSE OF MY ACCIDENT LAST YEAR. I was driving in the rain and sped up to change lanes, granted I should not have been going over 75, but when the spoiler came up, it did not create enough down force to keep my rear tires on the ground, giving me good tracktion. My car began to fishtail and hydroplane all over the road. I did a complete 360 and my front bumper hit the gaurd rail before I finally stopped. It could have been worst. I still think that if I had the factory O.E.M. spoiler on it would have prevented me from hydroplaning out of control. My tires were brand new, so it deffinately was not the problem. The spoiler did NOT begin to crack until months later after the accident. The spoiler's poor design was the reason the fiberglass cracked. Hope this helps. :cheers:

Are you sure you didnt say "I NEED NOS!" then shift into R for RACE and floor it?

Hi,

Well, technically, it's a Wing not a Spoiler. It uses a different priciple to deal with Lift. A Wing counteracts Lift, while a Spoiler prevents it.

As such, it will be different. How different? Better? Worse? I can't say, but we have at least one opinion that it provides less effect which makes some sense as a Wing is dependent on surface area, airfoil shape and angle of attack, and just from observation, it looks a little small to provide a large counteracting force. But, you'd need to do some measurements to be sure. They're calling it a Wing Spoiler, which again is technically incorrect, no such animal...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

Jim is right. I still wouldnt expect my stock spoiler to protect me from hydro plaining in the rain ever. I consider the stock spoiler more of a "looks" peice on the car more than an actual functional peice even while it does help in the slightest bit.

I call 300 pounds of downforce more than "helping a little". For all we know, that extra John Goodman on his rear trunk could have kept his tires on the ground better, maybe not. The only way to find out is take it to a wind tunnel and see.

Speculation, Im just saying... Why bet all your chips on a spoiler. Not all of us can drive a car like the Stig.... :)

I bought one from the seller in the eBay link and I am having it painted along with my rear bumper diffusers, GT3 bumper and side skirts next week. I'd be interested in knowing if those who have had problems with theirs if they purchased their "wing" from this seller or if it was purchased from someone else. The quality of the wing that I received appears to be good. No waves or warpage noted.

I really like the look over the Aerokit spoiler, as it gives the look I want without overwhelming the rear of the car.

I thought about getting that wing but decided against it. I have a lot of faith in the Germans that designed and engineered the Boxster, and if they designed the stock spoiler to be a certain way then I'm going to trust they knew what they were doing. (MNBoxster, notice how I used "wing" and "spoiler" properly? :cool: ). Besides, the stock piece looks pretty cool IMHO.

300lbs of downforce? I didn't know it was that much. Way cool.

A friend of mine suggested that the spoiler only gives 20lbs, where he came up with that figure I have no idea.

BTW John Goodman weighs more than 300lbs. unless hes weighed underwater :D

It's more of a poor desing where the wing actually mounts to the factory poles that rise up and down. Not so much quality in the overall craftsmanship. You will see what I'm talking about when you mount it. It comes with NO washers to go between the surface and the metal holes that the screws go into. BAD DESIGN. Over time enough vibration will crack the fiberglass. I fixed mine and added 2 rubber washers as shock absorbers and 2 months later it started up again. I have some pictures of it where it cracked. I will post them so everyone can see. :cheers:

I'd like to see the pictures.

Here's my feedback on the wing. Looks great, breaks easily. I put mine on at Christmas time, and just last week I was going down the freeway and the wing flew right off my car. That was money poorly spent. I was doing about 60 getting off the freeway when I kit a bump. I looked in my mirror and saw the thing get airborne. Luckily it didn't hit any other car. That would have been a disaster.

Now I'm looking for the aerokit I rear wing.

-David

Here it is on my car before my accident. I will take some pictures tonight and post them tomorrow to show where it exactly cracked.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...IMG_3409-1.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...IMG_3409_2.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...h/IMG_3408.jpg

Sorry to hear that. Gamballa has the right idea in their design. It completely covers and goes down on top of the metal rods before bolting on. Instead of just sitting on top of at the very top. Here is an image.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...tr_si_b_13.jpg

Now I really like Gemballa's spoiler. I don't like the way you can see the rubber around the lip of the trunk with the eBay wing.

Yes, I agree. But keep in mind, you will never see that stuff while driving IN the car and it goes up. Now if you are showing someone, like at a car show. Yes it may look ugly while it's up. I just replaced the stock one and put the fixed spoiler on the trunk. I'm happy with the way it looks. You can add an over-ride switch to keep the spoiler down if you like. Here is an image of my new spoiler. It's also on the new 07 boxster Porsche web site. Click on the Techquipment and they have one on a blue boxster.
http://www.boxsey.com/spoiler_switch/index.htm :cheers:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...IMG_3579-1.jpg

I just got on Gembella's site and they don't have anywhere to order their stuff. Where can I get that Gembella spoiler?

Well, like I always say, if they don't post the price that usaully means "IT'S SO DAM EXPENSIVE, WE ARE NOT GOING TO POST IT" because people would never CALL us to find out. ;) You have to call them for ordering anything. :cheers:

Oh, ok. Well at least there's a way to order it.

Just out of curiousity, how much would you think that spoiler of theirs costs?

I don't know for sure, probably a couple of hundred bucks or more. There stuff tends to be VERY expensive.

As long as it's under say $800 I think I'll get one.

But first Chills needs to de-amber. ;)

that spoiler looks pretty nice when its down, when up it looks goofy.
i dont like the way that the fixed on looks at all...

I hope you're talking about the eBay one. That Gemballa one is sweet.

To each his own. ;) Porsche has used fixed spoilers as an aftermarket option for some time now. But not everyone likes it. I just preffer not to drill any holes in my trunk, that's why I went the one I have. Only uses 3M double sided tape.

o no, the gemballa one and the ebay one look nie when down (well gemballa looks nice either way)

the other one i dont like, one thats just taped on the trunk

Brilliant Idea! Cappy!
 

How about a "cap" type spoiler on top of the factory unit?! That way I get the look AND the function!!!


Would the combined aero be funky? How bad could it be? Extra "John Goodman" I want, at high speed.


I would buy the cheapo and shave it and make a cappy.

That would be ideal. ;) I've seen it done before on some other cars. Look at this one. That's what they did. Added a small bridge ontop of the stock one.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...5323_large.jpghttp://www.porscheshop.co.uk/acatalog/porsche_boxster_body_styling.html

Well it looks better than this big wing that Porsche sells in the Techquipment section. This thing is so big and does not even conform with the lines of the car.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...ash/normal.jpg
At least mine is very small and fits nicely between the tailights. But everyone has there own opinion. :cheers:

New look of 987 spoiler
 

This is where I got my idea for the new 987 sport package that has this type of spoiler.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y15...ew_spoiler.jpg
As you can see the one I used is the same shape and size as the new 07 design. I think it looks cool and more modern. :cheers:

Now your talkin! I like that idea.

Anyone got the stock one they want to sell? Since I haven't taken mine in for paint, it's a prime candidate for giving this a try.

It's been done. Did you see my earlier picture. Check out this web site. You have to scroll down some to see it.
http://www.porscheshop.co.uk/acatalog/porsche_boxster_body_styling.html
This goes on top of the O.E.M. rear spoiler. I haven't seen one on anyones car yet.

I like it! :cheers:


Now would one of you guys or gals with a broken/cracked aftermarket wing want to sell or donate this to me :) I would figure a way and document how to fasten it to the stock spoiler. Maybe I can even make a mold of the cappy and dupe it.


Or spend the 300 bucks for the bridge type spoiler and be done with it...decisions, decisions... Out of the box sure sounds appealing.

That's not what I had in mind. That has a bit of a rice-a-roni look to it.

I was thinking of shaving the lower half of the aftermarket wing off and bonding it to the top of the factory spoiler so that I would have the look of the aftermarket wing, but the improved mounting of the factory unit.

Before I do anything dramatic, I'm going to look at the way the wing mounts and see if I can improve/modify the mount so that I don't run into some of the same problems that others have experienced.

Hi,

That's gotta be for aesthetics only because the Wing and Spoiler would interfere with one another aerodynamically, maybe not enough to matter, but they would in any case...

Happy Motoring!... Jim'99

I understand exactly what you mean. How hard do you think it would be to attach it?

I'd like to see how that would look, but I'm pretty set on the Gemballa one.

It would actually look just like the aftermarket wing....when closed. Open, it would look more like the Gemballa wing without the hole in the riser.

It would be pretty easy to do. There are panel adhesives out now that are crazy strong (GM attaches their door hinges on their trucks with the stuff). It can be filed, sanded and painted. I'm restoring an old Corvette and the panel adhesive I've used on it would probably work as well.