02-09-2007, 12:57 PM
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B&M or Schnell Short Shifter
Okay, I'm trying to decide on which one of these shifters is best for my 01 Boxster. I can't decide. They both look like they are good quality. Anyone preffer one over the other? I hate to start a war between companies, especially with the Schnell advertisement looming over in the corner of our web site. But I am leaning more towards the B&M one based on my past experience with my other car. I like the feel and way they "click' into place. Does the Schnell one do this to when shifting? Any feedback would be great. 
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02-09-2007, 01:23 PM
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are they manufactured by the same company?
I would give the advertiser Schnell a shot, I haven't heard anyone say anything negative about either.
If youre not satisified I'm sure they will refund your dough.
Always good to support the site and its sponsors.
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02-09-2007, 01:41 PM
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I don't know if the B&M and Schnell have the same fulcrum lengths so I don't know about the shift length and quality. But if you decide on B&M, safe yourself $200 and get the ebay clone instead. It's exactly the same part for $55. In fact, it appears to be axactly the same part as the Porsche 996/986 shift kit too.
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02-09-2007, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by blue2000s
I don't know if the B&M and Schnell have the same fulcrum lengths so I don't know about the shift length and quality. But if you decide on B&M, safe yourself $200 and get the ebay clone instead. It's exactly the same part for $55. In fact, it appears to be axactly the same part as the Porsche 996/986 shift kit too.
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I did that, and now I am regretting it because it did not come with the 2 aluminum bushings that replace the stock plastic ones. They only give you the shifter and no retaining rings, no plastic sleeves that go inside the Aluminum Bushings either. I could use it without the metal bushings, but I figure if I am going to do it, might as well make sure everything is icluded. By the way, I did some research and found out that the B&M is 5% shorter in the throw than the Schnell one. I think that is my deceiding factor. 30% vs. 35%.
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02-09-2007, 02:44 PM
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Schell is even cheaper than listed - $134
Just picked one up. Read the reviews at epiq autot sport. They review them both. I went with Schell b/c I wanted a little less metalic "snick", "snickey", "snick" when shifting.
P.S. I haven't installed it yet, so take comments with a grain of salt.
Scott S. in Connecticut.
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02-09-2007, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by ct_boxster
Just picked one up. Read the reviews at epiq autot sport. They review them both. I went with Schell b/c I wanted a little less metalic "snick", "snickey", "snick" when shifting.
P.S. I haven't installed it yet, so take comments with a grain of salt.
Scott S. in Connecticut.
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Thanks. That helps a little more. I like that sound it (B&M) makes. I just wish it wasn't so expensive. 
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02-09-2007, 03:50 PM
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i bought the clone b&m for 40 on ebay. i personally love the way it feels, and how perfectly stiff it is.
im satisfied
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02-09-2007, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by djomlas
i bought the clone b&m for 40 on ebay. i personally love the way it feels, and how perfectly stiff it is.
im satisfied
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Did it come with the aluminum bushings and plastic sleeves? I ordered that same one and it is just the shifter alone. I went to B&M to download the installation instructions and discovered the e-bay one I bought is missing these parts. I know it will work without them, it seems that it would be better to have the metal bushings instead of the stock plastic ones.
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02-09-2007, 04:28 PM
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no everything was included, it even came with the printed B&M instructions, and every single part on the directions was what i had.
no problems at all, i love how it feels
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02-09-2007, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by djomlas
no everything was included, it even came with the printed B&M instructions, and every single part on the directions was what i had.
no problems at all, i love how it feels
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Thanks for the info. I got ripped off then. Mine was missing allot of stuff. Just came in a small box with NOTHING except for the stick itself. Oh, well. Live and learn.
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02-09-2007, 04:47 PM
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yea guess so. did u return it or what?
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02-09-2007, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by porsche986spyder
Thanks for the info. I got ripped off then. Mine was missing allot of stuff. Just came in a small box with NOTHING except for the stick itself. Oh, well. Live and learn.
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Did the auction say that it came with the bushings? Every one I've seen has all the parts. If so, you should ask for the other parts or get a refund.
Mine came with all the necessary parts, $55, but I replaced the nylon parts with teflon.
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02-09-2007, 05:09 PM
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Buy the SSK from a2rinc,I bought mine from him and am very satisfied.
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02-09-2007, 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by porsche986spyder
I did that, and now I am regretting it because it did not come with the 2 aluminum bushings that replace the stock plastic ones. They only give you the shifter and no retaining rings, no plastic sleeves that go inside the Aluminum Bushings either. I could use it without the metal bushings, but I figure if I am going to do it, might as well make sure everything is icluded. By the way, I did some research and found out that the B&M is 5% shorter in the throw than the Schnell one. I think that is my deceiding factor. 30% vs. 35%.
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I'd be surprised if you can feel a 5% difference.
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02-09-2007, 05:27 PM
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I have the cheap one too and love it. I think yours must have been missing parts.
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02-09-2007, 07:04 PM
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I have a B&M sans bushings if anybody is interested. I'm probably going to put it on Ebay soon with no reserve.
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02-17-2007, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by blue2000s
I don't know if the B&M and Schnell have the same fulcrum lengths so I don't know about the shift length and quality. But if you decide on B&M, safe yourself $200 and get the ebay clone instead. It's exactly the same part for $55. In fact, it appears to be axactly the same part as the Porsche 996/986 shift kit too.
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Anybody have a seller for this clone? I searched ebay and the cheapest I saw was around $100.
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02-20-2007, 08:02 AM
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Anybody have a seller for this clone? I searched ebay and the cheapest I saw was around $100.
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Still can't find this clone for $55, anyone have the seller's name and/or link?? THanks!
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02-20-2007, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by HIFI
Still can't find this clone for $55, anyone have the seller's name and/or link?? THanks!
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I have mine posted on e-bay right now for only $60.00!
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220084572839
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02-20-2007, 08:22 AM
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Yeah, I actually saw it... but I need the bushings and all accessories, thanks though.
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