did you guys read the $20K showdown in Excellence?

[horizontally-opposed]

Originally Posted by Brucelee

I guess I am not allowed to have an opinion about Excellence magazine.

Having said that, I do and stated it. This was not an personal attack, simply my take on the magazine as a ex-subscriber. See, you have to PAY for the magazine, unlike your time here. So, as an EX-Subscriber, I don't PAY anymore.


Hey, if you don't like this forum, take a hike, I will get by.

So, as I said before, if you keep with the personal attacks, you will be banned.

End of story.

Rich, absolutely you are allowed to have an opinion of the magazine, good or bad. That's what the free exchange of ideas is all about.

That said, I felt your statement was about as blatant and nasty an attack as they come online, personal or no.

Also, while "saddest" and "rag" are certainly subjective evaluations and thus fair game, the term "shill" is an objective label regarding business ethics and personal integrity that I feel is completely unfair given the magazine's reputation for fair and even-handed reviews of all products, from Porsche's own cars and SUVs and Tequipment to aftermarket cars and products. Within the community, it's unmatched and, this side of Consumer Reports, I don't see another candle to blow at.

Thus, I simply balked at your calling the magazine a "shill."

I'm sorry to have lost you as a subscriber, for whatever the reason, but was surprised by your apparent vehemence towards the magazine. I feel like building a good relationship between magazines and web forums can only benefit all of us within the Porsche community. Bridges are a very good thing.

So, on that note, let me apologize for my response to your critique.

Best regards,

pete

[Brucelee]

Originally Posted by horizontally-opposed

Rich, absolutely you are allowed to have an opinion of the magazine, good or bad. That's what the free exchange of ideas is all about.

That said, I felt your statement was about as blatant and nasty an attack as they come online, personal or no.

Also, while "saddest" and "rag" are certainly subjective evaluations and thus fair game, the term "shill" is an objective label regarding business ethics and personal integrity that I feel is completely unfair given the magazine's reputation for fair and even-handed reviews of all products, from Porsche's own cars and SUVs and Tequipment to aftermarket cars and products. Within the community, it's unmatched and, this side of Consumer Reports, I don't see another candle to blow at.

Thus, I simply balked at your calling the magazine a "shill."

I'm sorry to have lost you as a subscriber, for whatever the reason, but was surprised by your apparent vehemence towards the magazine. I feel like building a good relationship between magazines and web forums can only benefit all of us within the Porsche community. Bridges are a very good thing.

So, on that note, let me apologize for my response to your critique.

Best regards,

pete

Nicely done and I appreciate it. In retrospect, shill is likely the wrong word. I did get the feeling that the Porshe folks could do no wrong in the Mag's eyes but upon reflection, you are nowhere near as bad as the guys who put out the PCA magazine.

Sorry for overreacting.

Thanks