Looking for diagnostic help with a durametric

[boxster_nut]

Originally Posted by theiceman

why not just remove the door actuators and do some troubleshooting with a schematic. you may even be able to do this with the harness disconnected at the through body connection. there are 4 switches in the drivers door actuator. probably 2 in the passenger.

That is exactly what I would do IF I had the schematic/wiring diagrams. Do you know where I can get them withing paying a fortune? I have the Bentley manual which is useless - no schematics what so ever.

[elav]

Durametric has 2 versions. The Enthusiast version will support up to 3 VINs. The Professional version is meant for mechanics and will supports an unlimited number of cars. There are people on eBay that rent the Professional Durametric for a reasonable price.

Can you explain the issue more? Is it locking and immediately unlocking? When does it do this (inner lock button, fob, key in door)?

The microswitches in the inner and outer door pulls (handles) only tell the window to drop a bit for when you open the door. It is the latch assemblies that tell it to keep the window down, etc. It also has the lock mechanism. If I were you, I would do the testing like the iceman suggested starting with the driver's side door latch.

BTW, from time to time my car almost seems to get out of sync. Going inside the car, shutting the doors and using the internal lock/unlock button a few times (until the light is off) seems to get things back in sync. Can't hurt to try.

[boxster_nut]

Originally Posted by elav

Durametric has 2 versions. The Enthusiast version will support up to 3 VINs. The Professional version is meant for mechanics and will supports an unlimited number of cars. There are people on eBay that rent the Professional Durametric for a reasonable price.

Can you explain the issue more? Is it locking and immediately unlocking? When does it do this (inner lock button, fob, key in door)?

The microswitches in the inner and outer door pulls (handles) only tell the window to drop a bit for when you open the door. It is the latch assemblies that tell it to keep the window down, etc. It also has the lock mechanism. If I were you, I would do the testing like the iceman suggested starting with the driver's side door latch.

BTW, from time to time my car almost seems to get out of sync. Going inside the car, shutting the doors and using the internal lock/unlock button a few times (until the light is off) seems to get things back in sync. Can't hurt to try.

Oh, more things I didn't know about the Durametric....thanks!

I didn't do a lot of tests with the car windows and roof in different states, but here are a few scenarios:
1 Both windows up, roof closed, engine off.
Hit the lock button on the key fob
Both doors lock. Exterior lights flash, 1 second passes, both doors unlock.

2 Both windows up, roof closed, engine off.
Insert the key in driver side door handle lock. Do 2 quick turns, CW if I recall correctly
Both doors lock. Exterior lights flash, 1 second passes, both doors unlock.

This next scenario may no be accurate as I don't remember the exact details, but anyway:
3 Both windows up, roof open, engine ideling
Push and hold the Roof Close button.
Passenger side window drops down the whole way.
Drivers side window drops down about 3/4".
Roof closes and latch secured.
Manually close passenger side window the whole way
Drivers side window closed automatically when roof was latched
Turn engine off, Exit vehicle
Lock with key fob.....Scenario 1 occurs.
Lock by putting key in drivers side door lock, scenario 2 occurs.

A truth table showing states of all the switches for proper operation would be really helpful.
Thanks

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by boxster_nut

3 Both windows up, roof open, engine ideling
Push and hold the Roof Close button.
Passenger side window drops down the whole way.
Drivers side window drops down about 3/4".
Roof closes and latch secured.
Manually close passenger side window the whole way
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It seems to me that the passenger side mircoswitch isn't telling the central lock system that the door is shut.

Try a scenario 4 (Scenario 3, but with the doors open.) If both windows operate the same as the passenger side door operated in scenario 3, then that should confirm my opinion.

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by boxster_nut

That is exactly what I would do IF I had the schematic/wiring diagrams. Do you know where I can get them withing paying a fortune? I have the Bentley manual which is useless - no schematics what so ever.

I sent you a private message. I have a schematic of the Central Locking system for a 97.

[boxster_nut]

Originally Posted by piper6909

I sent you a private message. I have a schematic of the Central Locking system for a 97.

I responded, thank you!

[theiceman]

I have one for post 2000 if you need it . Just not sure how to get it to you high res enough to read.

[boxster_nut]

Originally Posted by theiceman

I have one for post 2000 if you need it . Just not sure how to get it to you high res enough to read.

I sent you a message.

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by boxster_nut

I sent you a message.

Email sent.