Light pole > Porsche

[Grizzly]

Originally Posted by gRed04

I am pretty sure your numbers are way off. I believe we had approx. 2M people in state and federal prisons at the end of 2005. Another 2M in probation and work/release programs.

US Dept of Justice would have breakdowns by race, crime, state ....

If you read what I wrote, you'll see that this is the Federal Prison Population Only. I can try to account for all 2+ million prisoners nationwide. The Federal numbers are what I have at my disposal.

[gRed04]

Originally Posted by Grizzly

If you read what I wrote, you'll see that this is the Federal Prison Population Only. I can try to account for all 2+ million prisoners nationwide. The Federal numbers are what I have at my disposal.

Caught that a little too late and apologized in a edit in my post.

[dbth]

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2000/usa/Rcedrg00-01.htm

The disproportionate representation of black Americans in the U.S. criminal justice system is well documented.Blacks comprise 13 percent of the national population, 41 percent of people in jail.
One in three black men between the ages of 20 and 29 was either in jail or prison, or on parole or probation in 1995.One in ten black men in their twenties and early thirties is in prison or jail. Thirteen percent of the black adult male population has lost the right to vote because of felony disenfranchisement laws.

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Hard to keep a family together when all the dads are in the joint....

[986Roadster]

OMG stop this insane thread that has nothing to do with the car being stolen and smashed. the next fool to post really has too much time on there hands.

gone too far.

[dbth]

Great thread , seeing different views...

A thread on Adolph Hitler's commisioned race car ended up debating Cuba and exiles.

Don't fear enlightment.

[986Roadster]

i can't wait until vijen6 checks this post. gonna be like what the!!! what did i start! i think something really is wrong, where did he go............he hasn't replied back!!!

[Franco]

Originally Posted by 986Roadster

i can't wait until vijen6 checks this post. gonna be like what the!!! what did i start! i think something really is wrong, where did he go............he hasn't replied back!!!

Are we both fools now.

[unklekraker]

i agree..he better log back in, soon! and tell us the details...been calling him but no answer on his phone. we live like a mile from each other...

Originally Posted by 986Roadster

i can't wait until vijen6 checks this post. gonna be like what the!!! what did i start! i think something really is wrong, where did he go............he hasn't replied back!!!

[jeffsquire]

Boy, where to begin.

Bruce lee, once again please don’t delete this. You’d only be fueling pot-stirrers of polical correctness. I agree with everything you say about hyphenated racial characteristics in addressing race in this country. It doenst matter. In fact I find it ridiculous. But just remember the thread started with this:

This story involves 4 cop cars, a fence jump, 3-4 african americans with a possible gun, a light pole, and last but not least, my porsche. Just need some drugs content and a few females and this could be a block buster movie.

Followed by this:

Hummm African Americans involved in a crime..are you sure? according to Reverend Al they don't do such things, they just get bad press from the Po Po.

Followed by this:

I am sure they were just fine young men who wanted to possess something the white man stole from their ancestors. Thousands of years ago they were all kings and queens who probably had their own car very similar to today's Porsche.

Then Grizz posted this:

This thread is well on its way to being deleted by the forum Police. Please be careful gentlemen, so I can learn what actually happened to the car.

Followed by a modicum of reason by this:

wow who cares what colour they were, and where they came from and where they went......not one of you asked the guy if he was okay! hope you are okay vijen6, don't worry about the car, it can be fixed. please do fill us in. looks like some guys tried to steal the ride, but also seems like they got caught.

Grizz then opined that we need the facts. But I submit that it doesn’t even matter. Who cares if his white porsche was destroyed by the criminal agency of black men? Is his car any less damaged? No.The point is: who is the progenator of hyphens and color/race on this thread? Obviously race still matters to some. Hell, they damaged his car!!!

Finally, after all the debate, hoopla, anger and stats, we still heard this:

4 angry 'african american' dressed in 'gangster thug' style road raging. Trying to run me off the road. Possible gun in the back. I'm by myself. **************** that.. ……The ranking officer on scene sat on me on the sidewalk like I was a Mexican about to be deported.

I find this incredulous, but hey, the RX/Mustang/Rvand other dotcoms have gotta be laughing about who really lurks in the dark corridors of 986 Forum.
Finally, let me quote Grizz: I'm very disappointed. . . .
I’ll leave this dead horse to be beaten. . . . .. .

So what we have here is a group of black men attacked a white forum member while he was harmlessly driving around in his Porsche. That seems to be an accurate description of the events and I see no reason why we should not describe it as such.

Problem is you cannot say the truth anymore because you might offend the gangster blacks, the Canadians (especially the humorless french ones) or even the Cubans which is incredibly ironic since Cubans openly distinguish themselves from one another by about 10 different shades of pigmentation.

Originally Posted by jeffsquire

4 angry 'african american' dressed in 'gangster thug' style road raging. Trying to run me off the road. Possible gun in the back. I'm by myself. **************** that.. ……The ranking officer on scene sat on me on the sidewalk like I was a Mexican about to be deported.

[Franco]

Mamma mia ma che stanno dicendo questi ragazzi.

Je ne comprend pas ce qui se passe ici.

[Brucelee]

These posts are fascinating, so many point of views and ways of describing an event.

I have to say, if I saw four young men dressed in "gangsta" style clothing in a large SUV motioning ME to stop, I would NOT do so and assume the worst; better to be safe than sorry. So, I live and I MIGHT be assuming guilt where there is none. So be it.

Again to me, it is not the skin pigment, it is the total package. Guys who dress in "gangsta fashions" simply give me the whillies and make me want to find a better place to be. White, black or tan pigment, I am out of there when the rest of the package is present.

If four guys in Brooks Brothers suits motioned to me, I might feel totally the other way. Likely I would.

Does that make me a "clothes bigot?" I think so. It also is driven by my survival instincts which try to alert me to when there is danger, when there is not.

Do men who where this garb statistically represent a greater degree of danger. I THINK so, if you believe the news reports we see every day.

Lastly, what is fascinating is that virtually every news report of crime in the USA starts with the color of the suspects skin, ie, four white men or four black men were arrested today. They COULD just say four teenagers or four men in their twenties, etc. but they don't.

Could it be that the news media are closet bigots? Or, just reporting the more obvious elements of how you describe someone to the police for example?

What say you, are we being LED to this type of communication by our news media types?

[Grizzly]

Originally Posted by gRed04

Caught that a little too late and apologized in a edit in my post.

You didn't owe me an apology, dude. We're just having a conversation.

By the way, the nationwide numbers pretty closely mimic the Federal prison numbers as far as percentages go. I found it in a PDF format, but I'm too stupid to be able to figure out how to copy it here. The long and short of it is that dbth's figures are right on the mark at approximately 41%. My only point was that it was not 85% of the prison population.