02-14-2023, 06:20 AM
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Yes, the primary ones are the large diameter cables. Maximum allowable voltage drop would be about half a volt. Because cable lengths vary from vehicle to vehicle, and their original starting internal resistance is unknown, voltage drop is quicker and more accurate. If you have access to a Power Probe electrical diagnostic tool, it has a built in voltage drop capability.
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02-14-2023, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by JFP in PA
Yes, the primary ones are the large diameter cables. Maximum allowable voltage drop would be about half a volt. Because cable lengths vary from vehicle to vehicle, and their original starting internal resistance is unknown, voltage drop is quicker and more accurate. If you have access to a Power Probe electrical diagnostic tool, it has a built in voltage drop capability.
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I can simply make a voltage measurement across the cable with one lead at the battery + and the other at the block where the alternator and starter tie in, located towards the front top of the engine. I don't see this potential fault causing an intermitten issue like I'm seeing though. But it's an easy measurement.
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02-14-2023, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Bush Pilot
I can simply make a voltage measurement across the cable with one lead at the battery + and the other at the block where the alternator and starter tie in, located towards the front top of the engine. I don't see this potential fault causing an intermitten issue like I'm seeing though. But it's an easy measurement.
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Finding any fault is often just a process of elimination...............
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02-14-2023, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Bush Pilot
I can simply make a voltage measurement across the cable with one lead at the battery + and the other at the block where the alternator and starter tie in, located towards the front top of the engine. I don't see this potential fault causing an intermitten issue like I'm seeing though. But it's an easy measurement.
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Your issue sounds like a possible bad ground to me.
This video will show you how to test for voltage drop on the ground (negative) side.
https://youtu.be/qdaOSiScEu8
Keep in mind there are multiple ground points on these cars.
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02-14-2023, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by blue62
Your issue sounds like a possible bad ground to me.
This video will show you how to test for voltage drop on the ground (negative) side.
https://youtu.be/qdaOSiScEu8
Keep in mind there are multiple ground points on these cars.
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This is where the right tool makes your life easier: A Power Probe can do either positive or negative voltage drops from one tool in a couple of seconds.
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02-14-2023, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JFP in PA
This is where the right tool makes your life easier: A Power Probe can do either positive or negative voltage drops from one tool in a couple of seconds.
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You just about have me ready to purchase one just to have it in the tool box
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02-14-2023, 12:57 PM
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You just about have me ready to purchase one just to have it in the tool box 
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Look into them, very flexible and useful tools. We have both a PP Four and a Maestro, both of which are in constant use.
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02-14-2023, 01:30 PM
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Look into them, very flexible and useful tools. We have both a PP Four and a Maestro, both of which are in constant use. 
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Thank you for the heads up... I will check them out
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