Both low beams are out - please help

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by particlewave

There is no relay for the headlights (except DRL cars).






With fuse removed and headlight switch on, you should get 12V+ on one side of the fuse socket and ground on the other side (indicates a circuit is completed through the switch, bulb and connectors).

Ground on the other side if the bulbs are connected. If the bulbs aren't connected and still get ground on one side then there's a short somewhere. But I don't think that's the case in this instance because the problem is no power to the fuses.

I'd check the Hi/Low beam switch. According to my diagram it feeds power to the fuses. (Although my diagram is from a 99, but most likely it's the same). Check for power at the yellow/white wire at the switch. That's the wire running down to the fuses.

[EdPrem]

Originally Posted by piper6909

You're not supposed to get a ground there, you're supposed to get 12v.

Yeah, not getting 12v either.

[SMK Shoe]

Could there be a headlight relay before the fuzes or after the fuzes before the lights.

[particlewave]

Test each headlight for continuity between the low beam positive and negative pins (with headlight out of car, bulb in and after verifying there are no shorts/missing insulation on wiring inside headlight).

Check the cars headlight socket side connector for power (with key and headlight switch on).

[particlewave]

Yes, it is the same.
If OP’s tests confirm continuity at the headlight, but no power at the fuse or headlight connector, the high/low switch is suspect.

[EdPrem]

Buying the $250 Low/High Beam Stalk switch next. That replacement will be a little more of an operation than the Headlight Switch. I’ll keep everyone posted.

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by EdPrem

Buying the $250 Low/High Beam Stalk switch next. That replacement will be a little more of an operation than the Headlight Switch. I’ll keep everyone posted.

I'm sure you can find a good used one. We're not 100% that it's the switch, even though I suspect it. I'd hate for you to drop $250 on little more than a hunch.

Post in here:

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There's a lot of people on here selling parts at good prices.

[EdPrem]

Originally Posted by piper6909

I'm sure you can find a good used one. We're not 100% that it's the switch, even though I suspect it. I'd hate for you to drop $250 on little more than a hunch.


Boxster and Cayman Parts for Sale or Wanted - 986 Forum - for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

There's a lot of people on here selling parts at good prices.

Thanks. I looked there and a used one that’s 17 years old is $180. I might as well get the new one for $250. I’ll get it, install and keep you all posted.
By the way. Appreciate everyone’s help.

Update: I have to wait till the dimmer switch is back in stock. Not springing for the genuine part at $407

[EdPrem]

All,

So I now have the part and immediately hosed myself. Went in to remove the airbag with a T30 torx with a bit and extension. The bit came loose and is stuck in there now, and not in a way where I can loosen the screw. Tried to get it out for an hour. No joy. I am sucking wind right now.

Ed

[Sammyj]

Does anyone think this could be the ignition switch? I know I had a similar problem in my car. No low beams but all other lights were good. Took the switch out takes about 10 mins and it was visibly broken. I do know the switch was redesigned at some point to mitigate this failure but is a common problem on the early cars.

[Starter986]

Originally Posted by EdPrem

All,

So I now have the part and immediately hosed myself. Went in to remove the airbag with a T30 torx with a bit and extension. The bit came loose and is stuck in there now, and not in a way where I can loosen the screw. Tried to get it out for an hour. No joy. I am sucking wind right now.

Ed

Faced the same challenge when I replaced my 4-spoke. I think I used some black tar/gum compound to ensure the bit didn't get stuck.

I hope you can get it out. Good luck.

[particlewave]

For future reference, use a wrench, not bits.

[Burg Boxster]

Originally Posted by particlewave

For future reference, use a wrench, not bits.

Or a plastic baggie or some tape to secure it to the driver...

Yeah, well hindsight 20/20 so not of much help now... sorry.

However, in order to retrieve the bit maybe use some 3M double sided automotive adhesive tape on the driver or some gorilla tape and of course a magnetic driver helps.

Good luck

[szube]

Check the ignition switch. I had a similar issue about a week ago. I restarted the car and the headlights worked.

A few days later, no headlights, no climate fan (display was on), and no wipers. I went to restart the car but when I put my hand on the key the wipers, fan, and lights turned on.

It turns out the ignition switch is wearing out and I have to turn the key backwards a few degrees after starting to move it from start to run position for the headlights, wipers, etc. to work.

[EdPrem]

I installed the Dimmer Stalk switch. Didn’t fix the problem.

Ignition switch next?

[particlewave]

Ignition switch should have been first

[EdPrem]

Originally Posted by particlewave

Ignition switch should have been first

I don’t have all of the ignition switch symptoms. It’s only the headlights. Everything else works.

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by particlewave

Ignition switch should have been first

Unfortunately, we led him down the hi/low switch path. It seemed like a prime suspect according to the wiring diagram.

For my part, I apologize.

[EdPrem]

Originally Posted by piper6909

Unfortunately, we led him down the hi/low switch path. It seemed like a prime suspect according to the wiring diagram.

For my part, I apologize.

None required, I am enjoying working on the car.

[piper6909]

Originally Posted by EdPrem

None required, I am enjoying working on the car.

Thanks, and I appreciate that. Still, it's unfortunate that you spent good money on a part that didn't solve the problem.

Did you ever figure it out?