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Old 12-04-2017, 10:34 AM   #1
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As a few other members have noted there is a definite pecking order in the Porsche groups, I am not the only one that notices. We all enjoy the same marque shouldnt matter if its a 914 or 991. Guess I need to shut up an just drive my car with my car here and there.
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Old 12-04-2017, 11:09 AM   #2
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Locally, our PCA club has a very high proportion of Boxsters, including a lot of 986s. Maybe it's all the sunny weather year round here. Anyway, as a 987 owner, I've found our club very welcoming. Of course, there are a few narcissists in the club, but they're tolerable and can generally be avoided. My problem fitting in with the club has much more to do with age than model of car. I'm 45 but the club is VERY heavily weighted toward retirees. I always feel like a kid at the table.

The local 4WD Toyota club has been very welcoming too. It's a much smaller club, but it does have more of a family feel to it.
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Old 12-04-2017, 11:38 AM   #3
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I'm 45 but the club is VERY heavily weighted toward retirees. I always feel like a kid at the table.
You shouldn't. Most of us feel 16 on the inside. Its just the bodies that are worn. :-)
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Old 12-04-2017, 12:34 PM   #4
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Most of us feel 16 on the inside. Its just the bodies that are worn. :-)
Ha..!

My wife keeps telling me, "when are you going to grow up..? Your kids are catching up with you"
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Oh, I like your cars Anker! Good choices all.
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Old 12-04-2017, 01:40 PM   #6
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It’s a Ford!

So, as a favor my wife and I picked up a friend of my mother-in-law a while back. We happened to be in my subtlety tricked out, mid 5 sec 0-60 2015 Explo Sport. We already knew that this woman cares more about status than breathing.

While seating herself, she remarked ‘what a great looking car, very nice, what kind is it?’ It’s a Ford, I cheerfully replied! She managed a kind of choking, dissapproving ‘oh’, made herself as invisible as possible to the outside world and didn’t say another word the entire trip. It was hilarious.

Haters gonna hate

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Old 12-04-2017, 03:41 PM   #7
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Everybody in our PCA group are very open, friendly and helpful. We have 356's all the way to new 911's. With 914's, 968's, 944's, Panamera's and a guy with a '16 Macan and another guy with a new Cayenne. Plenty of Boxsters in the mix also.

Some people like to keep score. And if they don't remind you of the score periodically, they start to feel inadequate.
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Old 12-04-2017, 03:26 PM   #8
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Stop going to meetings. (Particularly meetings in Connecticut.)

Start going to track days.

You'll get plenty of respect, particularly when you're passing those 911s.
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Old 12-04-2017, 04:18 PM   #9
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Here are my Top 5 secrets to getting along well in a new crowd (whether its the PCA or the PTA, people are pretty much the same everywhere);

1. Make the first move. Be the first to say hi and introduce yourself.
2. Ask more questions about the other person than you answer about yourself. Ask about their car, how they bought it, why they bought that model, and what they like to do with it. Pay attention to what they actually say. Ask intelligent follow up questions that shows that you were paying attention. Don't say anything about yourself unless asked.
3. Mingle. Learn how to work a room (or a parking lot).
4. When asked about yourself, answer quickly with a funny anecdote or very short personal story. People will remember you better.
5. Smile a lot and laugh a bit (don't be too serious). Everyone likes being around someone who is happy and fun to be around.

Last, give it some time. It takes time to build relationships so attend several events and look to say hi to some of the same people each time. Before you know it, they will be looking to say hi to you too.
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Old 12-04-2017, 04:28 PM   #10
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Ironically I have it coming from my friends who say "You should of at least got an S"

Umm...you've never even driven a Porsche, let alone a Boxster S, and you're telling me what I should buy?

I'm a franchised dealer by trade and have been involved in Porsche's all my life. It's astounding the snobbery by people who have never even owned a Porsche...and are telling the dealer what he should buy...when they drive a clapped out Toyota

Buying my Boxster wasn't a status symbol to impress the neighbors. It's what I wanted.
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Old 12-04-2017, 07:17 PM   #11
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Come down to the south....all good here!
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Old 12-05-2017, 05:37 AM   #12
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What a great thread! Thought I'd throw in my $.02

I couldn't give two ****************s what anyone thinks of the cars I drive. lol.

There, just thought I'd share in an exercise of brevity.

Have a nice day.

The ***************** in shorthand should read f u c k s.

Thank you.
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Old 12-05-2017, 06:22 AM   #13
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great thread!

I was in Trader Joes parking lot on Sunday and I pulled up next to a beautiful 911 to park my beat up Boxster.

The guy got out of the car and stood there just giving me a scowl like I have not seen in a long time.

He was one of THOSE guys (you know the kind, with his shirt collar turned up) I was kind of dumb founded at how angry he looked that a guy with a car like mine would park next to him.

The nerve!

But boy, was I wrong on my judging by appearance.

He came over to me as I was getting out of the car and said, "You know what, my car may cost a lot more but yours is a lot more fun to drive. My kids gave me time at The Porsche Experience in LA and I got to drive a Boxster for the first time and I loved it. Now I want one, too and I'm wondering if you could recommend what year I should look for"

My jaw fell to the floor.
Turned out to be a really nice guy.

I wanted to ask him to put his collar down, but I didn't.
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Old 12-05-2017, 06:29 AM   #14
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great thread!

I was in Trader Joes parking lot on Sunday and I pulled up next to a beautiful 911 to park my beat up Boxster.

The guy got out of the car and stood there just giving me a scowl like I have not seen in a long time.

He was one of THOSE guys (you know the kind, with his shirt collar turned up) I was kind of dumb founded at how angry he looked that a guy with a car like mine would park next to him.

The nerve!

But boy, was I wrong on my judging by appearance.

He came over to me as I was getting out of the car and said, "You know what, my car may cost a lot more but yours is a lot more fun to drive. My kids gave me time at The Porsche Experience in LA and I got to drive a Boxster for the first time and I loved it. Now I want one, too and I'm wondering if you could recommend what year I should look for"

My jaw fell to the floor.
Turned out to be a really nice guy.

I wanted to ask him to put his collar down, but I didn't.
Ha good story, wish all were like that
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Old 12-05-2017, 06:33 AM   #15
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a couple times I would give a friendly wave to a guy driving a newer model a 991 or whatever they just look at me mostly and dont wave back, funny thing is they probably lease the car and dont even care about it other than its a status symbol.........sad.
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Old 12-05-2017, 08:49 AM   #16
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... funny thing is they probably lease the car and dont even care about it other than its a status symbol.........sad.
Unfortunately, this is true more often than I wish it was.

I recently met a very successful woman who had just bought a brand new 2017 911 Turbo. When I asked her why she bought a Turbo instead of a GT-3 or a Targa, she replied, "Because it was the most expensive".

Bam! There it is, spoken out loud. To her credit, she wasn't trying to be an ass, she was simply answering the question. Rarely am I at a loss for words but this did it for me.
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great thread!

I was in Trader Joes parking lot on Sunday and I pulled up next to a beautiful 911 to park my beat up Boxster.

The guy got out of the car and stood there just giving me a scowl like I have not seen in a long time.

He was one of THOSE guys (you know the kind, with his shirt collar turned up) I was kind of dumb founded at how angry he looked that a guy with a car like mine would park next to him.

The nerve!

But boy, was I wrong on my judging by appearance.

He came over to me as I was getting out of the car and said, "You know what, my car may cost a lot more but yours is a lot more fun to drive. My kids gave me time at The Porsche Experience in LA and I got to drive a Boxster for the first time and I loved it. Now I want one, too and I'm wondering if you could recommend what year I should look for"

My jaw fell to the floor.
Turned out to be a really nice guy.

I wanted to ask him to put his collar down, but I didn't.
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Old 12-05-2017, 12:09 PM   #18
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Honestly, everything all comes down to you. Do what makes you happy, drive what makes you happy. 99.9% of the time those are the ones dropping ****************tons of cash down the drain to keep their pristine car clean while anyone else who enjoys them just says **************** it and drive.

(not saying skip the maintenance though, must keep your baby healthy :smile

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Old 12-05-2017, 02:28 PM   #19
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Old 12-06-2017, 06:20 AM   #20
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I am fairly quite on all forums I belong to, with a 5 year old and 5 month old my time is taken up but I needed to say something and see if others get the same. I have owned my 2001 Boxster S for 2 years now (64k miles). I always loved Porsche and wanted one so when I saw the Boxster prices under $15k for an S in pretty good shape I decided to sell my 1999 Mustang Cobra and look for a Boxster. I did many repairs and upgrades and the my car is pretty well sorted now, mostly completed by me. I have been a PCA member and attended some meetings/events but not everyone, who has time for that? So here is my rant- I am 36 years old but l could pass for 30 and I feel the Boxster hate from other Porsche guys. Sorry I cant afford a GT3 and spend 5 grand on seat stitching but I am an enthusiast. To me I like 924's to 964's and all are Porsches no matter what. I seem to get the cold shoulder from many other Porsche owners, honestly they say Porsche owners are snobs and I see it. The Mustangs guys are alot more accepting as are Toyota guys (another interest of mine). I didnt buy the car for hanging out with other owners but the camaraderie is part of the ownership of a marque. Is it because I look young? Is it because I drive a $15k Boxster? Whats up with PCA members at least in my region? I have tried talking to guys at meetings and some are cool but the majority aren't. Will the 986 hate every go away?:ah:
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