Latest JD Power data on Reliablilty - 986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners

Brucelee · 08-10-2006, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by bmussatti

Not surprising!

You are going to be accused of Porsche bashing!

IowaS · 08-10-2006, 06:45 AM

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YellowJacket · 08-10-2006, 07:02 AM

You know, this is not surprising, nor does it hurt my feelings for a few reasons:

1. I don't think any of us woke up the day we bought our Boxsters, and said "alright, what I need is a reliable cheap-to-own car, because I just need transportation from point A to point B, and what better way to satisfy that minimalist need than with a Porsche?!" We knew we were buying a car that required extraordinarily expensive maintenance, and came with the potential for some pretty major "issues". Especially those, like myself, who bought a Boxster LONG after the issues with the RMS, MAF, etc., started popping up.

2. I don't think the average Porsche owner is as 40 year old mother of 2 who uses her car for trips to and from the grocery store and soccer practice, and who MAYBE hits 4k rpm once a month when merging onto the interstate. In many cases, those are the people who are driving Lexuses (Lexi?) and Toyotas. I'm guessing if the average Camry owner was a testosterone-driven redline freak who went through tires as fast as some of you guys do, Toyota would drop a notch or two on the list.

3. I don't buy into JD Power's statistics that often anyway -- if you look at their income structure, with respect to charging people to use their name, charging people for their trophies, etc, I don't think they are totally unbiased. I'll take Consumer Reports over them any day.

Just my $0.02.

super66 · 08-10-2006, 07:42 AM

I know my boxster isn't perfect....and there are things that irk me about it daily but once I start driving it mysteriously makes everything better....

the porsche bashing was getting out of control....I got a little tired of reading about the great vette when the one in my garage is a piece of dump....I believe MN boxster said the vette was 50 years of consistent improvement

you know my dad bought his first one in 88 when the problems were the dash clusters and rattles and squeaks.....his next was a 94....distributor...wild loose ride....rattles and squeaks...then the new all I hear is rattles and squeaks....and some of the recent stories....

most people that buy expensive cars rarely feel the car lives up to its price tag....my brother and his Z3 are a perfect example....so the porsche isn't on an island in that category.....

blue2000s · 08-10-2006, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by YellowJacket

You know, this is not surprising, nor does it hurt my feelings for a few reasons:

1. I don't think any of us woke up the day we bought our Boxsters, and said "alright, what I need is a reliable cheap-to-own car, because I just need transportation from point A to point B, and what better way to satisfy that minimalist need than with a Porsche?!" We knew we were buying a car that required extraordinarily expensive maintenance, and came with the potential for some pretty major "issues". Especially those, like myself, who bought a Boxster LONG after the issues with the RMS, MAF, etc., started popping up.

2. I don't think the average Porsche owner is as 40 year old mother of 2 who uses her car for trips to and from the grocery store and soccer practice, and who MAYBE hits 4k rpm once a month when merging onto the interstate. In many cases, those are the people who are driving Lexuses (Lexi?) and Toyotas. I'm guessing if the average Camry owner was a testosterone-driven redline freak who went through tires as fast as some of you guys do, Toyota would drop a notch or two on the list.

3. I don't buy into JD Power's statistics that often anyway -- if you look at their income structure, with respect to charging people to use their name, charging people for their trophies, etc, I don't think they are totally unbiased. I'll take Consumer Reports over them any day.

Just my $0.02.

The S2000 was in the top 5 on the list.

YellowJacket · 08-10-2006, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by blue2000s

The S2000 was in the top 5 on the list.

Yes, no one ever tried to hide that. In fact, when I bought my car, the Porsche dealer explicitely mentioned that this "is not an s2000", and went on to discuss the tradeoffs that you get for your decreased reliability.

I've owned 3 BMW's, 1 VW, and 1 Porsche now, and the Europeans will get another chunk of change from me when the Boxster dies, because the car just makes me happy!

I'm not saying the Boxster is perfect -- I would love a clutch that lasted 130k miles like that of my sister's Honda, but we all made a concious trade-off, and I don't think any of us should be shocked to find out that we're not driving a Toyota Camry that looks like an entry-level exotic!

Brucelee · 08-10-2006, 10:14 AM

There is a lot of denial going on here.

No one implied that Porsche should be at the top of this list.

However, I think it is pretty sad that a cars that cost so much are near the bottom of the list.

Keep in mind this list includes some pretty sophisticated iron. More data:

BMW was ranked #8, Jaguar #7. Cadillac was #3. God MB actually did a bit better than Porsche.

BTW-Audi was 6 slots BELOW Porsche. No surprise there. The Germans (save BMW) are slipping badly here.

super66 · 08-10-2006, 11:32 AM

that's it...these results are skewed...go buy a jaguar...good luck with that.....now let all the....."actuallys" begin