08-10-2006, 06:32 AM
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Latest JD Power data on Reliablilty
Just released today.
Lexus continues to be #1
Porsche is #22.
This was 3 year data.
PS- only 4 American cars finished behind Porsche.
Aye carumba.
For more, see today's Wall Street Journal.
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08-10-2006, 06:34 AM
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Not surprising!
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08-10-2006, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by bmussatti
Not surprising!
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You are going to be accused of Porsche bashing!
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08-10-2006, 06:45 AM
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08-10-2006, 07:02 AM
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You know, this is not surprising, nor does it hurt my feelings for a few reasons:
1. I don't think any of us woke up the day we bought our Boxsters, and said "alright, what I need is a reliable cheap-to-own car, because I just need transportation from point A to point B, and what better way to satisfy that minimalist need than with a Porsche?!" We knew we were buying a car that required extraordinarily expensive maintenance, and came with the potential for some pretty major "issues". Especially those, like myself, who bought a Boxster LONG after the issues with the RMS, MAF, etc., started popping up.
2. I don't think the average Porsche owner is as 40 year old mother of 2 who uses her car for trips to and from the grocery store and soccer practice, and who MAYBE hits 4k rpm once a month when merging onto the interstate. In many cases, those are the people who are driving Lexuses (Lexi?) and Toyotas. I'm guessing if the average Camry owner was a testosterone-driven redline freak who went through tires as fast as some of you guys do, Toyota would drop a notch or two on the list.
3. I don't buy into JD Power's statistics that often anyway -- if you look at their income structure, with respect to charging people to use their name, charging people for their trophies, etc, I don't think they are totally unbiased. I'll take Consumer Reports over them any day.
Just my $0.02.
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08-10-2006, 07:42 AM
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too bad
I know my boxster isn't perfect....and there are things that irk me about it daily but once I start driving it mysteriously makes everything better....
the porsche bashing was getting out of control....I got a little tired of reading about the great vette when the one in my garage is a piece of dump....I believe MN boxster said the vette was 50 years of consistent improvement  you know my dad bought his first one in 88 when the problems were the dash clusters and rattles and squeaks.....his next was a 94....distributor...wild loose ride....rattles and squeaks...then the new all I hear is rattles and squeaks....and some of the recent stories....
most people that buy expensive cars rarely feel the car lives up to its price tag....my brother and his Z3 are a perfect example....so the porsche isn't on an island in that category.....
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08-10-2006, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by YellowJacket
You know, this is not surprising, nor does it hurt my feelings for a few reasons:
1. I don't think any of us woke up the day we bought our Boxsters, and said "alright, what I need is a reliable cheap-to-own car, because I just need transportation from point A to point B, and what better way to satisfy that minimalist need than with a Porsche?!" We knew we were buying a car that required extraordinarily expensive maintenance, and came with the potential for some pretty major "issues". Especially those, like myself, who bought a Boxster LONG after the issues with the RMS, MAF, etc., started popping up.
2. I don't think the average Porsche owner is as 40 year old mother of 2 who uses her car for trips to and from the grocery store and soccer practice, and who MAYBE hits 4k rpm once a month when merging onto the interstate. In many cases, those are the people who are driving Lexuses (Lexi?) and Toyotas. I'm guessing if the average Camry owner was a testosterone-driven redline freak who went through tires as fast as some of you guys do, Toyota would drop a notch or two on the list.
3. I don't buy into JD Power's statistics that often anyway -- if you look at their income structure, with respect to charging people to use their name, charging people for their trophies, etc, I don't think they are totally unbiased. I'll take Consumer Reports over them any day.
Just my $0.02.
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The S2000 was in the top 5 on the list.
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08-10-2006, 06:54 AM
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Wow, that #1 initial quality must drop fast.
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When people risk their lives, shouldn't it be for something very important?
Well, it better be.
But what is so important about driving faster than anyone else?
Lots of people go through life doing things badly. Racing's important to men who do it well.
When you're racing, it's life. Anything that happens before or after is just waiting.
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08-10-2006, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Porschekid
Wow, that #1 initial quality must drop fast.
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I assume the same. Wasn't the 90 data much better?
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