Go Back   986 Forum - The Community for Porsche Boxster & Cayman Owners > Porsche Boxster & Cayman Forums > Boxster General Discussions

Post Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-20-2017, 02:02 AM   #1
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1
Smile Is it worth repairing this crashed Boxster?

Hi All,

I'm thinking of buying a crashed 986 to do the repairs myself - saving a bit of money as well as gaining more experience working on cars.

So before taking the plunge I wanted to consult you guys, the experts on 986's.



The Car in question is a 2002 2.7 Boxster with ~53000 Miles (87000 km).

I wrote down the parts I think would be needed to repair the car: goo.gl/6ZTF4n

See the damage from these pictures: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet


Does this calculation make any sense? Do you guys see any damage that I didn't list?
Of course I would visit the car in person before buying. Please share your thoughts, It would really help a lot!



Last but not least I should probably clarify that I'm not solely motivated by saving money as I enjoy working on cars in my spare time. Also I'm confident that I could do all the necessary work by myself. So I'm not solely motivated by saving money - I just wouldn't want to spend more than what the car's worth.

Thank you!

986repair is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2017, 09:08 AM   #2
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Scituate MA
Posts: 869
I'll bite. What does it look like in the frunk under the liner? Can the car be aligned? It looks like the owner drove under something which is probably better than driving into.
It looks like a new hood and lights would work Bumper looks ok. No expert, not even a sub pert. Guess.
DWBOX2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2017, 10:16 AM   #3
still plays with cars...
 
BoxsterSteve's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Baden, ON, Canada
Posts: 1,087
Garage
Here's why it hasn't been fixed through insurance:
Two deployed air bags... this one is the biggest reason
Interior parts to repair deployed air bags
Hood
Headlights
Headlight brackets
Bumper cover
Hood crest
Prep and paint to refinish

And the potential damage you can't see without taking it apart:
Damaged radiator(s)
Damaged AC condensor(s)
Damaged bumper rebar
Damaged bumper shocks
Damage to fenders that has to be repaired
Entire front of the tub may need time on a body shop rack to pull it straight

At 86k, it could need a clutch too, and who knows if the IMS bearing has been addressed.
And it's a 15 year old car.
Are you really willing to do all that work and have a vehicle with a branded ownership that you couldn't sell if you had to?
Low mileage or not, it's not worth the work.
I'd have to get it for free to remotely consider.
There are too many good uncrashed Boxster out there to choose from to undertake this amount of effort.
__________________
Six speed 2000 Boxster S
Arctic Silver on Metropol Blue | LN Dual Row IMSR | Arctic Silver console, spoiler frame & bumperettes | Crios mod | Technobrace | RoboTop module & modified convertible top relay for one-touch roof operation

Last edited by BoxsterSteve; 02-20-2017 at 10:22 AM.
BoxsterSteve is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2017, 11:39 AM   #4
Motorist & Coffee Drinker
 
78F350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 3,653
Garage
I've done it a couple times with Boxsters and many times with other cars. Having a wrecked car that was purchased specifically as a parts car made it a lot more affordable. It is not a great way to make money, but if you don't count your time as an expense it can pay for itself. I do it because I like the challenge and education. I also enjoy driving the cars.

If I was looking at the numbers you list, I would not take on that project. That's just based on my local market and how much money I consider expendable.
Sometimes I get lucky and a car is in much better shape than I expected. Sometimes there is hidden damage or faults that make a project futile. If your rebuild stalls or fails, how deep a hole are you going to be in? Can you easily part it out or resell it at a satisfactory price?

For you it may make good sense based on your local parts availability and car market. Another consideration is your local laws and regulations concerning a salvaged car. Here in Oklahoma it is very simple. There is no inspection or repair requirement for a car that is over 10 years old. Many places are a lot more strict.

It could be a nice car again. I would start by offering MUCH less for the initial purchase and expect to walk away without the car.
__________________
I am not an attorney, mechanic, or member of the clergy. Following any advice given in my posts is done at your own peril.
78F350 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2017, 11:52 AM   #5
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 99
Isn't someone parting out a 2.7 boxster with a rod knock on the forum? Swapping engine over would save 1 out of two cars.
__________________
2001 Boxster S (SOLD)
1991 Nissan Silvia "K"(Forgotten somewhere in Canada)
1989 240sx (Track car)
1987 325IS (Soon to be Spec E30 racecar)
2001 GSXR-600 (Almost warm outside!)
WorkInProgressK is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2017, 12:02 PM   #6
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Sanford NC
Posts: 2,533
I did that. Drove into the rear bumper of a pickup truck. They stopped estimating at $26k and totaled the car. Now granted I was dealing with a high end repair shop and living in a high cost area and paying to have the work done. The first thing you need to do is deal with the frame and any such issues.

After my accident, I mentally estimated $3k. But you could see where the doors had been driven back against the rear body structure by the chipped paint. Which means the frame flexed and the future crashworthiness of the car was compromised. And, BTW, my airbags didn't deploy.

They put the car on a laser frame alignment machine and had values for the car and the car was bent. So a new front clip would have had to be put on or the frame straightened. Some parts, once deformed, don't have the same cushioning effect in the next crash

Mine looked like your picture.

Some salvaged P-cars at https://erepairables.com/salvage-cars-auction?make%5B%5D=porsche&vtype%5B%5D=car

Last edited by mikefocke; 02-21-2017 at 01:07 PM.
mikefocke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2017, 12:52 PM   #7
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Manchester UK
Posts: 51
Send a message via Skype™ to Terryg
So, pretty much the same answers as on the other forum, I bet he does it!
Terryg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2017, 03:34 PM   #8
Motorist & Coffee Drinker
 
78F350's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 3,653
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Terryg View Post
So, pretty much the same answers as on the other forum, I bet he does it!
It's never fun to be told "No.", but it can be a disaster to not hear it said.

Here's the link for anyone else who's curious:
Should I buy a crashed porsche boxster? - 986 - www.BoXa.net
__________________
I am not an attorney, mechanic, or member of the clergy. Following any advice given in my posts is done at your own peril.
78F350 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2017, 07:38 PM   #9
1997 Tip, 2018 Macan
 
rexcramer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Upland, CA
Posts: 1,338
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoxsterSteve View Post
There are too many good uncrashed Boxster out there to choose from to undertake this amount of effort.
+1 boxstersteve

I would suggest your time is better spent driving instead of wrenching.
rexcramer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2017, 08:09 PM   #10
Santa Barbara, CA
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 38
Don't do it!

I was thinking you were getting this hulk for $1000. For the cost of this wrecked car, $7300, you can find a good running low-mileage Boxster without any of this damage or the salvage title.

Check prices on CL, Ebay and Autotrader, and don't be in a hurry. Even a flight to LA, FL or Texas would save you money and you'll be happier with one that is not a salvage title.

And don't worry, you'll have plenty of wrench time with a "good condition" car, just give it six months and you'll be doing the brakes, maybe the suspension, a new top, new tunes, maybe a clutch and fixing all the little gremlins so common to these cars.

My 2 cents. Good luck.
jvfante is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2017, 08:13 AM   #11
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: S.California
Posts: 2,027
Consider it a parts car and then figure out what you could bid. $1000 ,as previously suggested is about right ! Sorry but this is a bad business.
Gelbster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2017, 09:00 AM   #12
Registered User
 
rp17's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: DFW
Posts: 713
Sorry little off topic but this one from Mike's site is just insane.

https://erepairables.com/salvage-cars-auction/cars/porsche/cayenne/2012-porsche-cayenne-1531015

Parting out!!
__________________
What we're dealing with here is a complete lack of respect for the law.
rp17 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2017, 09:14 AM   #13
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: ontario
Posts: 377
Yeah 7k seems like way too much for that car. I paid less for my car and its a newer S that had lower miles and less damage. There are deals out there if you are patient and know where to look. Definitely wouldn't pay much more than a grand or two for that one.
boxxster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2017, 09:41 AM   #14
Certified Boxster Addict
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 7,669
Quote:
Originally Posted by 78F350 View Post
... if you don't count your time as an expense it can pay for itself.
^^^ What he said ^^^

If your time is free and its a hobby project and you can take a risk financially, then yes. If you expect or need to make a profit, then no.
__________________
1999 996 C2 - sold - bought back - sold for more
1997 Spec Boxster BSR #254
1979 911 SC
POC Licensed DE/TT Instructor
thstone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-21-2017, 03:09 PM   #15
Registered User
 
Boxy_02's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Buffalo, NY
Posts: 37
Garage
Too much money for that!
__________________
2002 Porsche Boxster Carrara White - 103,000 miles
Boxy_02 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2017, 03:27 PM   #16
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: BC
Posts: 1,310
I agree that $7k is ludicrous for a car in that condition. In North America. I'm not sure where the OP is located, but by the pics it looks like Germany. Are smashed up Boxsters really worth that much there?
__________________
2001 Boxster, 5 spd, Seal Grey
clickman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2017, 05:16 AM   #17
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Northville, MI
Posts: 249
7k is what that car is worth, maybe, after it is fixed. Cars that have been in collisions, even minor, never bring full value. Fixing a car "properly" is not easy and it is rarely done as most people skip steps or don't bother with a factory paint and use something from the local paint store. Parts that have bondo are not as nice as all metal and bondo will crack eventually.
bwdz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2017, 05:21 AM   #18
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Northville, MI
Posts: 249
One other thing to add, cars that need work sell for pennies on the dollar. I bought my 97 with 64k on it for under 3k. The top needed the arm to make it function and it had a scuff on the passenger side, the PO did not want to pay to have the top repaired so sold it cheap. I was able to buff out the scuffs as it only damaged the clearcoat and fix the top for $60. The car came with a hard top and an extra set of wheels which I have sold so now I have a low mile car for around $1500.
bwdz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-23-2017, 01:04 PM   #19
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Miami florida
Posts: 1,591
You can buy a very nice 2002, that has been well maintained for less than $9,000. I wouldn't ever take a chance on repairing this car. Look at the liners in the front, they have popped, that means that the frame is probably bent.
__________________
Current car

2000 Boxster 2.7l red/black

Previous cars

1973 Opel Manta
1969(?) Fiat 850 Convertible
1979 Lancia Beta Coupe
1981 Alfa Romeo GTV 6
1985 Alfa Romeo Graduate
1985 Porsche 944
1989 Porsche 944
1981 Triumph TR7
1989 (?) Alfa Romeo Milano
1993 Saab 9000
san rensho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-24-2017, 05:48 AM   #20
Carnut
 
AndyA6's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Utah
Posts: 775
Guys, this is in Germany..... A little different in pricing I guess.

Looks fixable but what is the hidden damage??

__________________
'14 Boxster
AndyA6 is offline   Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Tags
crashed car , diy , repair


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:27 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page