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Old 05-11-2016, 08:44 PM   #1
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For those that elect to carry a firearm remember to train and put a lot of rounds down range. Know your weapon and have the right mental preparation. Police Officers are well trained and have a 15-25 percent hit probability in street encounters when they fire their guns. It is one thing to shoot a paper target in a sterile environment. It is another to engage an armed suspect. Particularly if he is firing at you. Now... back to Boxsters!!!!
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Old 05-11-2016, 09:42 PM   #2
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Interesting thread. I've known many guys and a few gals who've kept a handgun in their vehicle, usually in the glove box. Surprisingly, none of these folks ever mentioned having one stolen. Hiding it more securely means reducing access, which kind of defeats the purpose, as some here have already mentioned.

Given how light and compact some of the new pistols are, why not just wear it in a shoulder holster under your jacket or shirt? Assuming of course that you're in a jurisdiction that allows it. Note that even here in NorCal where restrictions abound, concealed carry permits are easy to get.
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Interesting thread. I've known many guys and a few gals who've kept a handgun in their vehicle, usually in the glove box. Surprisingly, none of these folks ever mentioned having one stolen. Hiding it more securely means reducing access, which kind of defeats the purpose, as some here have already mentioned.

Given how light and compact some of the new pistols are, why not just wear it in a shoulder holster under your jacket or shirt?...
For me, having a place to keep it in the car is not about access. It's about secure storage when I am leaving my car and entering a place where firearms are not allowed.
Some places I go have this:



If I'm in the car, it's on me.
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For me, having a place to keep it in the car is not about access. It's about secure storage when I am leaving my car and entering a place where firearms are not allowed.
Some places I go have this:



If I'm in the car, it's on me.
Here, that sign is BS unless they register as a no carry zone with the state. They can always refuse service for any reason, but it's not a crime unless they register and are listed on the BCI website. Besides, concealed means concealed.
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Czech military pistol CZ-52 You can run but you can't hide from this one. the 7.62x25 round will penetrate level 2 armor so it will go right through a car door or window like butter and come out the other side. Not so good for home defence as the bullets go through rather than mushroom in the target.
Accurate to 50 yards.
I take it to the rifle range as the pistol range is not very challenging.

German Police Sig P230 (9mm). Fits in the hand perfectly and is easy to aim well.
Its very ergonomic and comfortable grip, but have to remember its not got a conventional safety lever.

Romanian SKS (7.62x39) is the perfect carbine sized gun for fending off a small army, acurate, fast loading with clipper strips and good range.
A fore runner to the AK47 design.
I imagine this as a post 9 earthquake defense weapon as people start raiding others homes for food and water.

Mosin Nagant 91/30 PU (7.62x52) Accurate to 550 yds, with a scope and makes for a decent low cost sniper rifle for hunting at a distance.

If I ever had to defend myself I'd go for the Sig 9mm. You will never pull the trigger and come up against the safety.
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Breaking news from Houston per radio station KTRH. A Houston resident was approached yesterday in his driveway by an armed robber who was demanding money. The resident reached into his car, pulled out a gun and shot the armed robber dead on the spot. KTRH didn't say if the resident proceeded to hand his wallet over to the armed robber. My guess is the resident kept his wallet (and his life).
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For those that elect to carry a firearm remember to train and put a lot of rounds down range. Know your weapon and have the right mental preparation. Police Officers are well trained and have a 15-25 percent hit probability in street encounters when they fire their guns. It is one thing to shoot a paper target in a sterile environment. It is another to engage an armed suspect. Particularly if he is firing at you. Now... back to Boxsters!!!!
Add a little, agreed train with it. Make time to fire 18 to 24 rounds every month. I shot for a Law Enforcement Agency for 8 years way back in the 70's and 80's....we shot 2 to 4 hundred rounds per week just in practice and then a match every weekend. Use the gun enough that you never feel encumbered with it in your hand.
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Add a little, agreed train with it. Make time to fire 18 to 24 rounds every month. I shot for a Law Enforcement Agency for 8 years way back in the 70's and 80's....we shot 2 to 4 hundred rounds per week just in practice and then a match every weekend. Use the gun enough that you never feel encumbered with it in your hand.
I shoot 100 pistol rounds a week, easy. Typically closer to 200. That includes .357 mag SA shooting as well.

Then it's about 50 for each rifle, usually 2-3.

Then 2 rounds (50) trap. That's a Saturday morning. Try to go every week.
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